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Dr. Elizabeth Severino & the
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Chat'N'Pray
October 6, 2005

"Clearing Relationships"

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Rosie Tara - Hello every body
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Elizabeth - Hi~
Rosie Tara - Hi Elizabeth
Elizabeth - Hi, Brigitte! Hi, Bonnie!
Rosie Tara - Liz, what means NAMASTE?
Elizabeth - Namaste is an East Indian (Sanskrit) term that loosely translated means, "I honor that place in you which when you are in that place and I am in that place, we are one."
Rosie Tara - I really, really love that...Thank You
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karenamarc - Good evening, all!!
Rosie Tara - Hi Karen!
karenamarc - Hi, Rosie Tara!
Bonnie - Hello everyone!
karenamarc - Hi, Bonnie!
Elizabeth - When one says it, one frequently touches one hand to one's heart, acknowledging and bowing slightly to each other. sometimes people put their hands in prayer position and bow and acknowledge each other that way, while greeting with "Namaste." It's pronounced, nah -mahs- tay.
Rosie Tara - Imight be very slow today ...I have a new laptop with German letters and different arrangment... Please be patient with me....
karenamarc - We sure will, RT.
karenamarc - I really need this topic this evening, Liz. What do you say group?
Elizabeth - HI, Karen!
Rosie Tara - I saw that on Tv ..very peaceful...
Elizabeth - We'll be MOST patient, RT!
Elizabeth - RT ... saw what, on TV? Namaste?
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Rosie Tara - I love Liz's topic.....
Wolf - Hi Liz! Hi All!
Rosie Tara - Yes, an Indian Guru explaining meditation techniques...greeting and farewelling people...
Rosie Tara - Hi, Wolf
Wolf - Hi RT!
Elizabeth - Hi, Wolf!
karenamarc - Hi, Wolf!!
Rosie Tara - Am I right with that, Liz?
Wolf - Liz - you are most welcome - I was going to email that for the newsletter - but figured that I would just tell you! ;-)
Elizabeth - Greeting and saying farewell? With Namaste? Yes.
Wolf - Hi Karen & Liz!
Wolf - Cool! Like Shalom and Aloha! neat!
Wolf - do we know what it means exactly Liz?
Rosie Tara - I think the Newsletter is a wonderful addition to our talks
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Wolf - hi Sara
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Rosie Tara - Hi , Sara
Wolf - it really is RT - it is wonderful!
Sara - Evening all!
Wolf - hi DZP!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - hi everybody...Liz great newsletter!
Rosie Tara - Hi DZP
Elizabeth - RT ... Thank you!
Sara - Thank you Liz.
Elizabeth - Dee ... thank you!
Elizabeth - Hi, Sara!
Elizabeth - Wolf ... missed part of your question ... what it means exactly ... what WHAT means, exactly?
Elizabeth - Those of you who have received the newsletter ... it looked okay? did it read okay?
Wolf - what Namaste means - I have used it but not sure of meaning
Sara - Absolutely.
Rosie Tara - I met the Dalai Lama in Sydney....What a overwhelming experience that has been.....
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - it si beautifull Liz
Wolf - the newsletter looks and reads great
Elizabeth - Wolf .. it means, I greet that part of you, which when you are in that part in you, and I am in that part in me, we are one.
Wolf - Oneness - awesome! Will use it more often! Mahalo! ;-)
Sara - When RT?
Wolf - oh RT - did you? He is soooooo wonderful - I went with Liz - and I am now calling Him - the "Grandfather of the World!"
Elizabeth - RT ... Yes, I can imagine! The Dalai Lama was amazing! I particularly loved experiencing how clear his mind is.
Rosie Tara - Two years ago, Sara
Wolf - He is sooo sweet and funny! I just wanted to hug Him
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - how fortunate of you guys to have met with him
Rosie Tara - I fell in love with his LAUGHING....
Elizabeth - Wolf ... me, too! Except I don't think Tibetan Buddhist monks "touch" women! LOL!
Wolf - Liz - that part of the newsletter was particularly great - I loved all the things that you put into it
Wolf - oh well- their loss! ;-)
Elizabeth - RT ... me, too! He has the LIGHTEST laugh! It's quick to come out, his laugh, and it comes out from his whole body, the way a child laughs.
Elizabeth - Wolf ... thank you!
Wolf - most welcome! He just made all laugh with his humor - he is sooo sweet! and genuine
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Liz- you sound to be in such a better place than you were in the last chat...feeling better eh?
Rosie Tara - :::And I love his eyes when he is close to laughing...so cute....
Wolf - true RT !!!!
Elizabeth - Dee ... absolutely! Yes! Thank you!
Elizabeth - Our Angel Wonder Powers Team is amazing!
Wolf - for sure! and the DL helped too! lol!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - great to hear that Liz
Rosie Tara - Wolf..DL..?
karenamarc - GReat!!
Wolf - Dalai Lama! = DL ;-)
Elizabeth - DL = Dalai Lama
Rosie Tara - Well...I must be stupid not to know..Wolf
Wolf - no- not at all - I should have written it out! ;-)
Wolf - you are most wonderful RT !!!!!
karenamarc - You just didn't get the conversation, RT.
Rosie Tara - Americans do like to ebriviate...(spelling right?), or ?
karenamarc - ARe we going to discuss our topic this evening???? I am anxious to do this.
Wolf - we sure do - sometimes - and should stick to writing things out! ;-)
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karenamarc- do you have a relationship that need dropping?
karenamarc - How about it, Liz????
Elizabeth - Yes. Our topic tonight is letting go of energies, especially family energies or relationship energies that don't serve us.
Elizabeth - Yes. Our topic tonight is letting go of energies, especially family energies or relationship energies that don't serve us.
karenamarc - I have a very manipulative dad that is 93 and very ill. I need to deal with him daily and it is difficult.
karenamarc - I would like all the help I can get.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - how does he manipulate you?
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karenamarc - He expects me to be with him constantly.
Wolf - I have a very manipulative disabled sister who lives next door - and I need to deal with her - and my Mom who I live with - who treats me like I am still a child - and I need to move on to my life's purpose - away from here
Rosie Tara - sorry, was gone for a second...
Wolf - glad you are back RT!!!!
karenamarc - Thanks, Wolf. It is nice to have company. I hope we can get some help tonight.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - and what do you do about this karenamarc...do you give in?
Wolf - Iam sure we can Karen!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Wolf- the first step...knowing what you have to do
Rosie Tara - I have a younger brother, who hurt me a lot. I trusted him, because I was so sure that he loves me....but...
karenamarc - Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I try to find a balance, but it is often difficult. Today was very bad because he is back in the hospital and is going to a rehab center tomorrow. He is very demanding with fixing pillows, sheets, ad nausaum.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - do you stand up for yourself karenamarc?...kindly tell him that you wish to help, but dont want to feel like a slave?
karenamarc - I really wish it were over and I could reclaim my life. I don't enjoy caretaking him. I do have a live-in, but I visit each day and it is never enough.
Wolf - my sister wants me to stay close - and help her -like when she is able to cook - she wants me to hand her things - like her assistant
Elizabeth - Two things came up for me very powerfully in the epilogue to the situation with my brother two weeks ago. The first one was, how I was telling myself stories of what was going on, and how it wasn't true. I believed it was true in the moment, and that helped cause my suffering. But it wasn't true. The meaning I gave to the stories was my own meaning.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - does your dad know that you feel this way?
karenamarc - I think I do, DZP, but it is unpleasant. Maybe that is just the way it is going to be until the end. I just don't want to make myself ill over this.
Rosie Tara - Karen,maybe he is more desparate with his situation than you are....
Elizabeth - The second thing that came up for me in the epilogue from the incident two weeks ago, was how many times in my life, and over what an incredibly long period of time, I have wanted other people's love, appreciation, or approval. I have been seeking that for a very, very long time.
Elizabeth - I learned that when I am in the energy of SEEKING love, appreciation, or approval, then it's very difficult to be genuinely present, genuinely aware, of who I am.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karenamarc- i agree with RT- he probably is just acting this was due to his current situation, more dire thatn yours...i should ask, has he always been this way with you?
karenamarc - He is very desperate, but what can I do. He was never a real good dad and I have resentment toward his demands because I don't think he would do this for me.
Sara - Liz, I think many need to be "people pleasers".
Elizabeth - And when I am not SEEKING love, appreciation, or approval, and am just completely present with whatever's coming up for me in the moment, then love, appreciation, and approval come to me unasked and unsought ... I am reminded that we are receivers first, that our nature is to receive, we are wired even at the very level of our DNA, to receive ... and our only suffering comes when we block receiving.
karenamarc - Maybe a part of me wants his love, but it is impossible to get and I love my life.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karenamarc, then you must know in your heart, that you are doing what you feel is enough, know in your heart yo uare acting out of love and be ok with how you feel about this situation, and only do what you are comfortable with
Wolf - I have realized lately that I have to do what I have to do - taking back my own power -and doing things to help myself to move forward
karenamarc - That is what I am doing, DZP, but it is painful.
Rosie Tara - Do you bloke your feelings for your Dad because he wasn't a "good Dad"....
Elizabeth - Karen, when we do the Work on ourselves, and ask ourselves, "He is very desperate ... is it true?" then we take a look and realize he just is what he is ... and perhaps WE are the desperate ones, when we feel HE is desperate.
Wolf - awesome Liz
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karenamarc- listen to what Liz is saying
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Elizabeth - Hi, Sheila!
Wolf - I know how painful Karenamarc - I have been struggling with the same things
Sheila - Hello Everyone.
Rosie Tara - Hi Sheila
karenamarc - I don't get it. We are deperate, when we feel he is desperate.
Wolf - hi
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - it is painful because you still are judging your actions by his standards, if you feel you are doing a good job and enough, then rest at night knowing thta you are acting out of love, and only do what you feel in your heart to do, this way your actions come from love , not resentment behind them
Wolf - hi Sheila
Elizabeth - It is really important to begin to be aware of the multitude of ways we trade off our authenticity of who we are, because we feel we need love, appreciation, or approval.
karenamarc - I have had dreams about giving up my identity - like losing my wallet cards.
Elizabeth - Our nature is love. One of the things I realized in the epilogue from two weeks ago, is that we cannot seek what we already are. It's insane ... but we in the Western World and perhaps many other places as well, are taught very differently.
Elizabeth - We are taught that we have to do this, or be that way, or dress this way, or speak that way, or have an attitude of exactly this way, in order to "GET" love, appreciation, or approval.
Rosie Tara - Liz, so true..a little bit gratitude brings so much fresh motivation with it....
Sheila - How are the others taught?
karenamarc - So true, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth - And we are love. That's it, pure and simple. We ARE the receiving of appreciation, the receiving of approval.
Wolf - too true Liz!
Elizabeth - We ARE the receiving of love. When we are truly authentic with ourselves, and therefore with others, the experience IS love.
Elizabeth - When looked at from that perspective, it is useful to realize that whatever we do, we do for US, not for someone else. So if you, Karen, are doing for your father, realize that you are doing it for YOURSELF, it is YOUR choice.
Elizabeth - And you, Wolf, when you do for MaryPat, perhaps you are doing it for YOURSELF, it's YOUR choice.
Bonnie - karenamarc -- you have to find comfort with yourself. If you give yourself power by saying "I choose" to do these things rather that "I have to do it" , you have given yourself the power to say "I choose not to do it today". Guilt is something we put on ourselves.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Liz- you learned ALOT in the last 2 weeks...lol
karenamarc - It is my choice, but what happens if the other person isn't satisfied?
Rosie Tara - and if we do not get love in life we will suffer like a flower without water...
Elizabeth - Dee ... I feel different. :) LOL!
Wolf - right - I realized that
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - RT- you are so right
Elizabeth - RT ... we are taught to believe that 'if we do not get love in life we will suffer like a flower without water" ... the truth is, that all there IS is love, and we are the only ones who can block it, by SEEKING it outside of ourselves!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karenamarc- you can not worry about the satisfaction of the other person, what if nothing is enough..then what?...you know in your heart if you think you are doing enough, and if you feel you are, then rest with that
Wolf - that is huge!
karenamarc - Thank you, DZP I needed that reminder.
Rosie Tara - Liz, but we still have to receive SOMETHING in return,or...
Wolf - I realize that I have to "back off" so that she will do more for herself - so that she will be able to do more and more onher own
karenamarc - or what??
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karenamarc- i hope you can see your situation from a different perspective, and feel good about the fact that you do as much as you do...other people can not be bothered at all with caring for another
karenamarc - Maybe it is the satisfaction from within.
Elizabeth - RT, the Universe takes care of our receiving of love. We do for one person because we feel to. That doesn't mean we are to expect something back from that person. Although we are taught that it "should" be that way.
karenamarc - Thanks, DZP.
Wolf - true DZP!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Wolf- somertimes the best thing you can do for someone, is to let them try for themselves... not to baby them, let them accomplished somethings on thier own, something they can feel good about accomplishing
karenamarc - I agree.
Wolf - exactly DZP!
Elizabeth - Choose to take care of him. Choose to jump at his every request to move pillows, or whatever. The only thing that causes your suffering with this is, you're not in resonance with what you're choosing. If you were completely at choice with what you are doing, you wouldn't feel pain. And he could make any demands on you he wants, and if you are at choice with how you move to satisfy those demands, what you'll have is a peaceful, at-choice mind. No contrary conversations in your mind. No resistance.
Rosie Tara - Liz, I understand....love can come from everywhere....
Elizabeth - The suffering comes when our bodies are doing something and our minds aren't in resonance with what our bodies are doing.
Elizabeth - If you are doing something, choose it.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - yes Liz
karenamarc - Problem is I really don't want to keep doing this.
karenamarc - I have to, though.
Elizabeth - Karen .. then why ARE you doing it?
Sheila - My mon has been in a hospital since June 28 and I have been running everynight since after work. I now have changed my "attitude" I want to visit not I have to visit. Thank you.
Rosie Tara - but there is still the big G.....
karenamarc - Because he is my father and it is my responsibility.
Elizabeth - Karen, may I offer another way of saying what you just said, but with a different energy?
karenamarc - Thank you, Elizabeth. I am open!!!!!!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Sheila- and with that attitude, you well be peaceful....:)
Elizabeth - When you say, "he is my father and it is my responsibility" ... both of those clauses are outside of yourself.
Elizabeth - "He" and "it" are outside of you energetically.
karenamarc - How should I say it?
Elizabeth - How do you feel when you say, "Regardless of what kind of father my father was or is, I am a good daughter, and what I am doing now is what good daughters do, according to me."
Elizabeth - When you say it, do you feel your energy coming back to you?
karenamarc - That sounds good, but to him it is not enough, so I am not a good daughter.
Rosie Tara - wonderful, Liz.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - if you feel it in your heart that it is something you WANT to do, try to hold the attitude of happiness for doing what you want, if not, then amend your actions until they match what you feel you want to do
karenamarc - I think I am too hooked into him.
Rosie Tara - You ARE a good, very good daughter, Karen
Elizabeth - Who decides whether you are a good daughter or not? Who decides what the definition of a good daughter is? YOU are the daughter, it is YOUR decision. His opinion is just his opinion.
Wolf - for sure Karen
karenamarc - Great, I got it.
Bonnie - Karenamarc -- You cannot change the way others feel or think, you can only work with yourself. You have to accept yourself for the good person you are.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Liz- thats the way to put it
karenamarc - Yes, Bonnie.
Rosie Tara - Right, Bonnie
Elizabeth - I share an experience. For several decades, I had a very difficult relationship with my mother. And one day, I woke up, and decided that I would decide what a good daughter does. And that whatever she felt, was whatever she felt, I could not control that. And I decided what actions and what frequency of actions, a good daughter did, in my opinion, and from my own structuring. Our relationship turned around in a very short period of time.
Wolf - my Hawaiian teacher says that what people think of you is not your business - so basically - what they think is what they think - it does not affect you - you are free to be who you are!
Bonnie - Surround him in the "White Light" and choose to do what you want to do.
Wolf - good one Bonnie!
karenamarc - Thanks, Bonnie. I will.
Elizabeth - The process we mentioned last time, the process of ho'onoponopono, is a process of letting go of all attachments.
Elizabeth - That includes the attachment to seeking approval or appreciation or love from anyone.
karenamarc - Thanks, Elizabeth.
Wolf - the word means "to put things right"
Rosie Tara - first you have to love yourself, before you can love other freely.....
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - i think once we acknoledge that we need change, the first step is taken...and what a big step
Elizabeth - When we are completely in our own energy, free of attachments, then we are in "right" relationship with all that is.
karenamarc - That sounds beautiful!!
Bonnie - Liz- I had a similar relationship with my mother. When I came to the reality that I was never going to be able to please her and although I love her, I don't always like her. Now I do just as you stated, I am a good daughter according to my definition and I am at peace with that.
Wolf - good way to put it Liz!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Bonnie- that is great!
Rosie Tara - Liz, could you explain "attachment" alittle bit more,
karenamarc - Can we do this process, Liz??
Elizabeth - RT... an 'attachment' is any energy that gives you pause or delays you from being fully expressed in your truth in the moment. Attachment usually comes from the belief that we have something, need something, or want something.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Wolf, does this all make sense in your situation too?
Elizabeth - Karen ... we've already started it.
karenamarc - Great!!
Wolf - yes it does
Elizabeth - For example, Karen might feel she needs her father's love or his approval ... which may be hopeless because he's going to do whatever he does and not do whatever he doesn't do ... and her perception of what she's receiving or not receiving, may cause her pain.
Rosie Tara - Liz, what about DUTIES everybody has in life....
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Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - hopefully many of us will sleep peacefully tonight
Marge - Hi everybody! I made it!!!
karenamarc - I pray for that.
Elizabeth - Wolf may feel that she needs something from MP or from her Mom ... and that attachment to what she feels she needs, will create her as doing things that may not be authentic for her in the moment, unless she chooses them.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Liz- correct- it is all about perception and how much weight we give that
Elizabeth - Hi, Marge!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - hi MArge
Rosie Tara - Hi dear Marge
Wolf - I have decided that I have to do what I need to do for me - so am moving forward with my own life -it is no longer on hold for my sister
Elizabeth - Marge, you MADE it! LOL!
karenamarc - That is the pain, Liz. I wish it were different, but I need to be real. Like you and your brother.
Wolf - Hi Marge! glad you could make it! missed you!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Wolf- you just graduated to FREEDOM!..congrats!
Marge - I did, thankfully! I'll just read the transcript. Just happy to be here!
Wolf - it was like that Liz - until I realized it - and so I am now making better choices for me
Elizabeth - Karen, on my web-site I have a copy of a poem I wrote a few years ago, and that is, to pray for release from all hopes and wishes for a better PAST!!!! LOL!!! What was, is history.
karenamarc - Don't we need things from others??
Wolf - thanks DZP!
Bonnie - I am beginning to see the truth to what we send out, we get back. If we are in a negative state, we attract negativity. If we put ourselves in a postitive state, that is what will come to us. We define who we are.
Elizabeth - Karen, what we need first, is to be true to ourselves ... to find out WHO we are, and be open and true with it.
Rosie Tara - True, Bonnie
karenamarc - I think I am pretty good at that, Liz.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karen- we set that boundaries for what we need from others...we need to live our lives doing what WE need to do to be happy, all other perceptions are just thier opinions
Wolf - and DZP - as part of that - I am going to
Elizabeth - Another thing I realized in the epilogue from two weeks ago, is that we are not brought into life as human with our souls intact and whole. We are here to grow our souls, and we grow them through observation and awareness of who we are, what we do, and by bringing that awareness to be witnessed to other human souls who are also growing.
Wolf - ooops - in 2 weeks I am going to Washington state for a class and to visit friends - and I have not yet told my sister so that she cannot spoil it
Marge - THAT makes a lot of sense, Liz!!!
Rosie Tara - I totally agree, Liz....I see life the same way...
karenamarc - Sounds good, DZP and Liz.
Elizabeth - For example, your truth, Karen, could be, that you feel resentful about helping a father whom y ou feel is ungrateful. So be it. That's your truth. Speaking that out, is speaking your soul's truth.
Rosie Tara - Oh, Wolf.....how sad
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - karen- this is a situation that you can use to learn from, learn how to be happy with what you feel comfortable doing for others, standing up for the person you are, and appreciating yourself for what you do, not just relying onthe thanks of others, while that is nice, is can not be necessary, or then we only do to get approval from others, and that is shallow
Wolf - why RT?
karenamarc - Boy, I have been doing that. LOL
Elizabeth - And Wolf, your truth might be, you feel resentful of needing your Mom's house to live in and MP's money to live with. So be it. That's your truth. Or perhaps it WAS your truth.
Wolf - right WAS - I am now working on taking care of my own life myself
Rosie Tara - I feel in a way "fear" in you....Wolf
Elizabeth - The process of ho'onoponopono begins with the clear understanding of the need to be solely in the energy of you and the Universe. As above, so below. That is "putting things right."
Wolf - "fear"???
karenamarc - I realize I have the best opportunity to complete this relationship with my dad now for my soul's growth.
Rosie Tara - maybe guilt???
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - maybe on of your fathers "jobs" on earth was to strengthen you as a person
Elizabeth - "That which is above is like that which is below, and that which is below is like that which is above." This is the Law of Correspondence from the Emerald Tablet, 1500 AD or so, from Hermes Tristemegus.
karenamarc - I want to do it right???!!!!!!
Bonnie - Someone recently said to me "Our truths are most often, someone elses opinion" We just accept them without question.
Elizabeth - It is a firm principle of Huna, which is where the ho'onoponopono process comes from.
Rosie Tara - That's it, Karen!!
karenamarc - Man, have I had a lot of men strengthen me. LOL
Elizabeth - Bonnie ... precisely.
Elizabeth - Bonnie ... precisely.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - do for your dad because it makes you feel good doing for him...and be at peace with that..and love yourself for your kindness
Bonnie - Ditto
Elizabeth - Be with the energy of what I'm about to write ... say the following prayer out loud as I write it ... it's pronounced exactly as it's written ...
karenamarc - Thanks, DZP, When I get my head out of the way, I am ok.
Elizabeth - E iho ana o luna. E pii ana o lalo. E hui ana na moku. E ku ana ka paia."
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Bonnie- i like that...its quick and to the point, and sadly true...lol
Wolf - right Liz - and RT - I have felt that I have been stuck here for a long time -and guilt has been part of it - but I am now moving on - I know now that I am strong on my own and ready to "get out on my own"
Elizabeth - It means: "Bring down that which is above by means of the light, To ascend take from darkness into light that which is below by means of the light. This will transform the spiritual energy as it flows from the Source and integrates all inside of you, giving peace. This will affect you profoundly and chnage your life, bringing illumination, and you will feel the delightful supreme fire."
karenamarc - Great, Wolf!! Congratulations!!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Liz- what did we just say?
Rosie Tara - And you should, Wolf, it is YOUR life....
Wolf - Liz - that's beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and thanks Karen - I feel really good about all this
Wolf - thanks RT - it took me a long time to realize that! ;-)
Elizabeth - Bringing us into the light, means to see who we are, to be aware of who we are, what we do, what we are, what we aren't, and to speak that out to another human being, in the form of witnessing.
Rosie Tara - I love that very much, Liz
Wolf - cool!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - Liz- and the student becomes the Teacher..lol
Elizabeth - The practitioners of Huna even 6,000 years ago, had a very clear understanding of the conscious, higher conscious, and subconscious minds.
Rosie Tara - to see what we AREN'Tis so important....!!!!!
Marge - This really feels good!!!!!
Wolf - they sure did Liz - we Rainbows are neat! and have come back to spread the word of Oneness!
Elizabeth - Huna is the process of understanding human being in complete relationship to the self, and how the self relates to the environment.
Elizabeth - The goal is total awareness of the merger of the "above" and "below."
Wolf - yep!
Elizabeth - In the process of ho'onoponopono, we begin by elevating our energies, as we have been for a while now in this chat.
Sheila - This is concept is hard for me to grasp at times.
Elizabeth - Now, imagine yourself in an auditorium.
Elizabeth - Imagine a stage.
Elizabeth - Just watch the stage for a while. Perhaps it's empty now.
Elizabeth - Now onto the stage, begin to place the individuals you want to let go of.
Elizabeth - A father, a mother, a sister, a brother, a former lover, a child ... place them one at a time, on the stage.
Rosie Tara - full stage.....
Elizabeth - Begin to see them all in white light, as white light begins to fill the stage.
Elizabeth - And as you watch them on the stage, you remember a very important energetic truth ...
Elizabeth - You remember the code of forgiveness.
Elizabeth - There are three actions of error ...
Elizabeth - In the Huna tradition ...
Elizabeth - There is Hala, which means to miss the path, to err by omission.
Elizabeth - There is Hewa, which is to go overboard, to do to excess.
Elizabeth - And there is 'Ino, which is to do intentional h arm to someone with hate in mind.
Elizabeth - In the pure energetic tradition, the only action which is worthy of guilt, is 'Ino, to do intentional harm to someone with hate in mind. The other two ... Hala or Hewa, may be crazy, dangerous, stupid, inconsiderate, whatever, but they are not worthy of guilt. So they must be let go.
Elizabeth - Someone doing 'Ino, in the Hawaiian tradition, must go within 24 hours to ask the forgiveness of the person injured, or the relatives or friends of the person injured. In the Hawaiian tradition, when asked, the person harmed, must grant forgiveness. All this must be done within 24 hours.
Elizabeth - So image what it would be like, or could be like, or would have been like, if for every one on the stage, you had honored this tradition ... nothing could go unresolved for more than 24 hours.
Elizabeth - And feel the lightness that comes.
Elizabeth - And for each one, address each one, one at a time, and hold each one in the light, and say to them, "I forgive you because I know at the soul level you are innocent."
Elizabeth - And let them go.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - how amazing would the world be if we could all honor that
Elizabeth - Repeat this as often as you need to. It's a very powerful process. Be sure to say the Hawaiian prayer first.
karenamarc - What is that?
Elizabeth - Dee ... precisely. The Hawaiians felt that guilt was the single most destructive emotion that humans could feel. They felt it was the cause of most disease and most mental illness and unhappiness. They therefore created a culture where guilt was simply not allowed.
Wolf - wow Liz - I just got soooo goose - bumpy! awesome
Rosie Tara - DZP,Yes...if it goes both ways....
karenamarc - What is the prayer to say first?
Sheila - Guilt does keep us stuck
Elizabeth - Karen ... the Hawaiian prayer I typed in earlier.
karenamarc - I will have to reread the chat script.
Elizabeth - All ... I just realized what time it is. It's time to do the healing prayer session!
Rosie Tara - Very powerful,Liz
Wolf - neat Liz - thanks!
Elizabeth - We're in a great energy. Just move right into keying in your Name for the Divine.
Marge - yes, DZP, what a wonderful world it would be!
Wolf - ready!
Bonnie - The one thing about guilt though is that the mean and evil don't feel it, only the good do.
Elizabeth - Divine Mother, Holy Ones, Holy Spirit, Mother/Father God!
karenamarc - Thank you, Liz. This was invaluable to me.
Wolf - Mother and Father God and Holy Spirit
Rosie Tara - ready
Elizabeth - Karen, you are most welcome.
Marge - Yes, this is very powerful! Ultimately, everything starts with one! Thank you SO much Elizabeth.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - universal Love
Sheila - yes
Rosie Tara - Dear God
karenamarc - All Come
Marge - ready
Marge - God, Holy Spirit
Sheila - God Holy Spirti
Elizabeth - God, Holy Spirit, Mother/Father God, Holy Ones, Universal Love, All Come!
Elizabeth - Be with us now as we intensify our intention to be of service to you.
Elizabeth - Be with us now as we well up our realization of you, of you in us, and us in you.
Elizabeth - In-fill us now with your Power and Grace.
Elizabeth - In front of me is the Basket of Blessings ... all ... please breathe deeply in and out, while saying Your Name for the Divine ... take the palms of your hands and beam them towards the computer screen ... and set your intention, imagine, your energy merging with the Divine energy and going to those in the Basket of Blessings.
Elizabeth - Healing prayer energy goes now, to those in the Basket ... all animals, people, and situations. And it is so.
Elizabeth - It is time now, to enter the names of any other animals, people, or situations, you'd like to receive healing prayer energy at this time.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - yes, it is so!
Marge - and it is so!
Rosie Tara - Amen
Wolf - and it is so! Amen! Amama ua noa!
Sheila - Amen
karenamarc - David I, depression
karenamarc - Linda I, fear
karenamarc - A perfectly wonderful trip to India for Elizabeth!!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - I'd like to add John Perkins to the basket, healing for his depression, healing from his loses and acceptiing them and finding peace with them
Wolf - for me to be hired to do healing at a new Healing and Wellness center in Souderton, PA or something better - maybe in WA state
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - safety and enlightenment to Liz on her trip!
Marge - For Elizabeth .. for relaxation and ease of preparations for her trip to India
Wolf - amen to that Karen -for Liz
Wolf - amen to that Karen -for Liz
Bonnie - Zoe went to the Rainbow Bridge yesterday
Sheila - My mother Eileen, Antony and Kelly and our dog Quik positve energy for Elizabeth
Wolf - for Liz's safe and fun trip to India - for insight and healing on all levels
karenamarc - Sorry, Bonnie.
Elizabeth - Marge ... thank you! :)
Rosie Tara - for us protection and help in our new financial situation
Bonnie - Angel the pug who is looking for a loving forever home
Bonnie - thank you
Marge - prayer energy for Zoe for much happiness on the other side
Elizabeth - Karen, thank you!
Wolf - so sorry Bonnie - many blessings
Marge - (you're welcome Liz)
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - blessing to Zoe
Marge - healing prayers to you Bonnie
Elizabeth - Bonnie, I am so sorry.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - for all of us who need support releasing our negative views on our relationships...may we find peace
Elizabeth - Bonnie, may yours and Zoe's love live on forever.
Rosie Tara - Zoe...? I am so sorry, DZP!
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - healoing to Bonnie
Sheila - I'm sorry
karenamarc - Here, here, DZP.
Wolf - thanks DZP - well said! ;-)
Bonnie - Thank you all
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - RT- (wrong zoe...my Zoe is right here; )
Marge - amen to that DZP
Rosie Tara - Blessings, Bonnie
Rosie Tara - I am sooooo glad for you, DZp
Rosie Tara - May I share something nice with you all ?
Marge - absolutely RT
Sheila - Yes
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - please do RT
Wolf - please do RT!
Bonnie - Please do
karenamarc - Yes, do.
Elizabeth - RT .. please do!
Rosie Tara - Iwent last Sunday with Tara to a St. Francis Day Service, organised by our local church
Rosie Tara - it has simply been DIVINE...300 dogs and cats and NO dog fight....
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - how wondefrful
Wolf - awesome! the animals love it!
Elizabeth - RT ... I've done them myself, meaning, facilitated St. Francis Day Services, I've seen what you're talking about .. .hundreds of animals in complete harmony.
Marge - Wow RT ... that's fantastic!
Elizabeth - I'm doing one this Saturday.
karenamarc - Sounds divine.
Rosie Tara - 3 Franciscan Friary blessed all animals and they all looked so placid...
Wolf - and I am going to meet Liz there to help - will be fun!
Marge - How Beautiful!!!
Bonnie - How wonderful!!
Elizabeth - How wonderful!
Rosie Tara - It is sooo beautiful !!!!!
Sheila - Liz, it is at Lions Lake?
Elizabeth - Sheila, no, this one is at Wild Birds Unlimited in Cherry Hill.
Elizabeth - They're just off of Kings Highway near the Intersection of Kings Highway and Route 70.
Marge - Liz, RT ... where else / how else would you have 300 dogs and cats together in peace and harmony? Incredible!!!!
Elizabeth - Time is 1:00 pm (Saturday).
Rosie Tara - In the middle of the service a flock of parrots arrived and sat in one big tree.....quietly and calmly....amazing...
karenamarc - I have to sign off, all. Thanks for all you help this evening. Blessings and love!
Elizabeth - Oh, RT, that is SO beautiful!
Marge - Liz, that is SO wonderful!
Wolf - that must have been so beautiful RT! Wish I could have been there! wow!
Elizabeth - RT, have you seen the move, the Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill? It's beautiful!
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Marge - oh RT, that's unbelievly beautiful!
Rosie Tara - Tara's favotite was singing Gospels.....she loved seeing her mummy dancing around....LOL
Wolf - night Karen - many blessings!!!!!
Sheila - I think animals know a higher source is around us.
Dee&Zoe&Phoebe - i gotta get going, blessing to you all
Bonnie - good evening karenamarc
Rosie Tara - Night Karen
Elizabeth - Bye, DZP!
Sheila - Good Evening
Wolf - night DZP - blessings
Elizabeth - Sheila, they do!
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Marge - night DZP and Karen
Rosie Tara - Bye DZP
Bonnie - Liz are you doing the "Blessing of the Animals" at the AWA again this year??
Marge - RT .. was this an outdoors event?
Wolf - AWA??
Elizabeth - Bonnie ... no, I wasn't asked this year.
Rosie Tara - Yes, Marge.....sunshine ....Big tree....
Marge - Wow!
Elizabeth - Animal Welfare Association.
Bonnie - I haven't seen an announcement from them so maybe they are not doing it there this year. You blessed my pugs last year. They were in the Courier Post
Wolf - Must have been beautiful RT! /// thanks Liz!
Rosie Tara - Liz....the songs had beautiful word....would you like me to send them to you?
Elizabeth - Bonnie ... Yes, I remember the pugs! LOL!!!
Elizabeth - RT, I'd love that. Thank you!
Sheila - Positive Thoughts and Good Evening everyone.
Rosie Tara - Wolf, do you know what...Tara has changed since then..
Elizabeth - RT, also, if any of the words that the Franciscans said, were handed out, I'd love a copy of that, too!
Marge - Oh Bonnie ... pugs are SO cute!
Bonnie - You read my black pug last year at the Lyons park. He lives with four other pugs and wants to be an only pug. LOL LOL
Rosie Tara - Done, Liz !
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Wolf - RT - since the blessing? awesome!
Marge - RT .. how did Tara change?
Marge - night Sheila
Elizabeth - Bonnie.. I remember that, too!
Rosie Tara - it is weird , I was so afraid to go on my own, knowing that there would be so many daogs Tara has never seen gbefore.....She was so well behaved nearly strange to me...very much like my daer ROSIE has been....
Elizabeth - RT, she felt the energy, I'm sure. The animals know the oneness. It's beautiful when they show the humans how it's done.
Rosie Tara - and she is still like that......different..!
Marge - Beautifully said Liz ... I love it when they show the humans how it's done.
Wolf - that is soooo beautiful Liz & RT - and they do that - like at Liz's animal communication classes too ;-)
Rosie Tara - Yes, Liz, she KNEW....one Franciscan talked to her all the time....he always came back...
Elizabeth - RT, I am so happy for your beautiful experience, and even happier than you've shared it with us!
Bonnie - Thank you all for a wonderful evening. Light to you all, Good Night.
Elizabeth - Night, Bonnie! Thanks for being here tonight!
Wolf - yes RT - thanks so much for sharing it with us!
Rosie Tara - you all are more than welcome...!!!!!
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Marge - I must say night to everyone and many blessings ... my prayers will be with you Liz ... and for safe passage with all the meanings of that for your entire journey to India, .. and looking forward to many wonderful stories upon your return
Wolf - night Marge - great
Elizabeth - All, I'll be signing off now, too. Many blessings to all of you! The next chat will be in November, I'll be sending a notice out. Wish me luck and gentle travels and gentle yet powerful spiritual awakening and growth in India!
Elizabeth - Thank you, Marge!
Wolf - great "
Elizabeth - Bye for now!
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Marge - Will do, Liz! Night all
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Rosie Tara - Good night , Marge; I have to go soon, too....loved the chat...you are all grreat SOULS....
Wolf - night RT!
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