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Dr.
Elizabeth Severino & the
Angel-Wonder Powers Team
Chat'N'Pray
Thursday, January 8, 2009
"Loving,
Attachment and Letting Go"
Plus: Dr. Liz welcomes Mr. Smudge, her new
10+ year old Rescue Dog
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kikfrd
- ok. I made sure I didn't pick orange but something close
to it :-)
Dee
& kids
- thank you :)
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Dee
& kids
- how have you been?
kikfrd
- Hi Dr. Liz!
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Dee! Hi, Kikfrd!
Dee
& kids
- Hi Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz
- I adopted a senior dog today
kikfrd
- Wonderful!! Tell us
Dee
& kids
- Awesome, how did s/he come to you?
Dr.
Liz
- He's 10+ years old. Some arthritis.
Dee
& kids
- I'm sure you can do something about that Dr liz...lol
Dr.
Liz
- Just after Alex dropped his body on Dec. 7th, he came
to me and asked me to do for another dog, what I did for
him ... meaning, to adopt an older dog and give him great
Golden Years in his life. The same time he came to me, he
appeared to Jim in a dream, with the same instruction.
Dee
& kids
- awwww
Dr.
Liz
- So I looked around Petfinder a lot. One dog kept drawing
me back. Turned out the dog was in a shelter about 30"
from me. Went to meet him on Tuesday, went back again on
Wednesday, and came home with him tonight.
Dr.
Liz
- He's a mixed breed, most probably collie or sheltie, some
shepherd, and blond lab.
Maybe.
Dee
& kids
- what kind of dog??
Dr.
Liz
- Weighs about 40 pounds. He's underweight.
kikfrd
- YEAH! smart?
Dee
& kids
- name??
kikfrd
- awww
Dr.
Liz
- Smudge.
Dee
& kids
- I love it!
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, he's very aware, very smart.
kikfrd
- LOL!
Dr.
Liz
- LOVES riding in the car.
Dee
& kids
- so, how does he feel about you being about to "hear"
him?
Dr.
Liz
- He's not too happy about being alone. He's crated at the
moment, for his security. But he's missing all his other
kennel buddies.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, he picked up on it right away.
Dee
& kids
- how long was he there?
Dee
& kids
- what was the first thing he said to you??
Dr.
Liz
- The kennel director told me the story she had been told
by the person who brought him in. He told me right away
it wasn't true. Then SHE said that she felt the woman was
lying.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I really don't know. The shelter people said he was
given up the day after Thanksgiving ... but in his picture,
which was taken outdoors, there's healthy green foliage
... which doesn't exist here at that time of year.
kikfrd
- LOL
Dee
& kids
- wow
Dr.
Liz
- He came from Gloucester City, not a particularly good
area, again, if what the shelter people say is true..
kikfrd
- If you go to a shelter are you bombarded by communications?
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Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- Kikfrd shared with me what happened to Freds tail...:
(
Dr.
Liz
- I was told that the woman who brought him in said he had
been running around loose for a while and she had finally
caught him and brought him in. He said he wasn't running
around at all, that they had been feeding him less and less
and that there was a fight and one person wanted to keep
him and the other wanted to give him up. So the one that
wanted to give him up, took him to the shelter.
kikfrd
- and i'm starting to think fred doesn't like me:-)
AJRN
- senojab@comcast.net
Dee
& kids
- Would it help Fred if when he was petted, to energetically
pet his tail??
kikfrd
- tsk tsk
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Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, sometimes.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, yes, re: Fred.
Dee
& kids
- AWWW...how cruel
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, AJRN!
Dee
& kids
- Thank you Dr Liz- I saw him today and I sensed that would
help him
Dee
& kids
- Hi AJRN
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, thank you.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I mean, thank you for helping.
kikfrd
- BIG THANKS
Dr.
Liz
- Clearing the tail area, yes. Rather than petting it, possibly
"drawing" your hands around where the energetic
tail is.
Dee
& kids
- I cleared Kiki too, and taught her mommy how to do it
too
Dee
& kids
- that is exactly what came to me to do Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, that's great. Good job! :)
kikfrd
- I know they are thankful
Dee
& kids
- He came right over to me Dr Liz, but he is in a bit of
attack mode with Marianne....do you sense that he has an
issue with her?
Dr.
Liz
- I request a prayer now, for Smudge, that he know he is
safe here, and that he will live here safely with great
food, water, walks, mental stimulation, and play, for the
rest of his life.
kikfrd
- Let's pray for Smudge
Dr.
Liz
- He's whinining/soft barking in his crate now.
Dr.
Liz
- He needs to know he's okay.
Dr.
Liz
- He needs to know his crate is a safe place to be.
Dr.
Liz
- He needs to relax and trust in the process.
Dee
& kids
- Amen to the prayer intention set by Dr liz for Smudge,
and also that he understands how wonderful his new life
episode with Dr liz will be
Dr.
Liz
- He needs to know he's not completely alone.
Dee
& kids
- Calm, Peace and Grace be with Smudge NOW
Dr.
Liz
- Thanks!
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kikfrd
- Amen
AJRN
- Hello all
kikfrd
- Hello
RosieTara
- Hi Everybody ! Frohes Neues Jahr !!!!
Dee
& kids
- Hi RT
Dr.
Liz
- HI, RT! HI,AJRN!
Dr.
Liz
- RT, Frohes Neues Jahr!
Dee
& kids
- Hi AJRN
Dr.
Liz
- I was just about to write he's a little calmer now, and
he started up again with his soft whining/soft barking.
RosieTara
- Am I far too late ? What is the time over there?
Dr.
Liz
- RT, we just started.
kikfrd
- did you want to go?
AJRN
- I really am having trouble chatting here with this screen,
please forgive me.
Dr.
Liz
- It's 9:17 pm EST.
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, you're doing great.
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Dr.
Liz
- There's a white box in the top center of the screen. Type
into the white box, what you want to say. Then click on
"update" or hit the return key.
Dee
& kids
- aw...he will learn soon that He'ss never been safer
RosieTara
- I just saw "amen" and thought it might be the
end of the session...:))
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, he actually liked it a the Shelter. He liked that
he was dry, fed, and talked to.
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Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- should we make this chat session a short one tonight???
RosieTara
- Thanks , Liz !
Dr.
Liz
- RT, we were praying for a 10+ year old dog I adopted today.
Dee
& kids
- wow- I bet you dont hear that much Dr Liz
AJRN
- Hello all
AJRN
- I figured this out
AJRN
- so very sorry
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, that's very thoughtful of you. Let's see how he does.
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, you're doing great.
RosieTara
- WOW !!! Congratualation ! I am so gad for the dog and.....YOU
!
Dee
& kids
- RT- just started actually ; )
kikfrd
- AJRN... trust me-I've been a pain with my log in's and
out's :-)
Dr.
Liz
- RT, there's a lot involved in adopting a senior dog, I
know ... however, it's the right thing to do.
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- how old is he?
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, worry not if you don't see your name on the "Occupants"
screen. You're likely to still be logged on.
kikfrd
- He will see that he likes it there too. It's warm, you'll
feed him good food and communicate with him in a way not
many have
Dr.
Liz
- This chat software has a quirk.
AJRN
- I just got a puppy Llahasa and have a 6 year old Lhasa
that I adopted from my sister a couple years ago. What a
chalange but they are doing well
RosieTara
- Is it a boy or girl....Liz...what is his/her name?
Dr.
Liz
- If you haven't typed something in 14 lines of chat, your
name drops off the "Occupants" list. You're still
here, however.
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, that's great! :)
Dr.
Liz
- RT, He's a boy. Smudge.
Dr.
Liz
- GREAT face, HUGE brown eyes.
AJRN
- it is a girl and she really looks like a girl and very
fisty
Dr.
Liz
- Very smart. Very observant.
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- when Cheryl adopted her senior cat DOC, she still
talks of it being one of ther best experiences in her life
Dr.
Liz
- I'll get some pictures at some point and send them out.
kikfrd
- Dee- Cheryl or the cat?
Dee
& kids
- please do Dr Liz
AJRN
- her name is Lilly. We live in NJ and she came from Texas
RosieTara
- Cute !! Do you have aphoto ?
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I have the feeling that this could be, too, for me.
:)
RosieTara
- :)))
Dee
& kids
- Cheryl...cat passed Sept 11th 2001
Dr.
Liz
- RT, no photo yet.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, WHEW! re: 9/11/2001 passing!
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, :) :) :)
Dr.
Liz
- As soon as I start to type "He's a little quieter
now" he starts up again.
AJRN
- Oh My Dee, my blessings to you
Dee
& kids
- right- Dr lIz you sensed him right after and said he passedd
that day to help all those who were crossing over that day...and
he needed to be a "fresh crosover" to do that
help
Dr.
Liz
- I figure he's got between 4 and 6 years left. Maybe more,
but he's a medium-large dog, and they usually don't live
much past 14-16.
AJRN
- presently he is in the crate sleeping soundly
RosieTara
- Liz. why did you choose Smudge ?
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I just got that exact same sensing, and was about
to type it in!
Dr.
Liz
- RT, Smudge chose me. Not sure why yet.
RosieTara
- Hmm....
Dee
& kids
- Oh BTW- Dr Liz- that new diet I'm giving the kids, from
Kymothy Shultz(?) book....THEY LOVE IT!!!!
Dr.
Liz
- RT, I DO know Tanaka and Alex are behind it, because they
came to me and also to Jim in a dream.
kikfrd
- Very interesting. Do you think he's talking because he's
having second thoughts? (no offense)
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, that's a GREAT book, isn't it? Have you "doctored"
the diet at all, or are you doing it as written?
Dee
& kids
- funny how they choose us huh???
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, he loved where he was, in the kennel. I think
he misses his kennel buddies.
Dee
& kids
- Im curious to find out "how" Betty is...why
she chose us...can't wait for our chat session Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz
- But he chose me for a reason. At some point I'll know
why.
RosieTara
- How wonderful..Liz,....another Rosie Tara story....:)))
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, email me afterwards and let me know what times tomorrow
or Saturday work for you. We'll set up a time. Today obviously
unfolded in a different way for both of us!
Dee
& kids
- so far just giving a bit less bones...and feeding 2xs
day instead of teh recommended 1
Dee
& kids
- right(Im still babysitting...lol)
Dee
& kids
- litel one is sleeping...lol
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, where are you getting your protein?
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, LOL!
Dee
& kids
- tomorow is perfect Dr liz..i will email
Dee
& kids
- Whole foods organic
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, thanks.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, that's where I plan on going for Smudge, too.
Dee
& kids
- can't find necks yet, but did get backs and just crushing
the bones a bit forthe cats..Jake does just fine
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, a butcher will have the necks.
AJRN
- Dr Liz, may I ask how long an adult Lhasa male will bond
with a female Lhasa puppy? They sort of play and the male
Lhasa growls but it seems that he antigonizes the puppy
and she does the same. He is 6 yrs. old and she is 13 weeks
old.
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, I usually don't let puppies play with adult dogs
for a while.
Dee
& kids
- gotta try and find organic, but I guess even if it isnt
organic, better that than canned
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Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, I keep them separate.
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Marge!
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Dee
& kids
- Hi Marge
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, yes, organic is so much better.
RosieTara
- Hi Marge ! Happy New Year !
AJRN
- OH? why is that dr. Liz?
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kikfrd
- Dr. Liz, why keep older dogs and puppies separate?
Dee
& kids
- Betty's ruinny eyes seem to be better already with this
new diet (oinly a week) if that is possible
kikfrd
- Hi Marge! Happy new year
Marge
- Happy New Year to you too, RT! and to all of you!
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, for exactly the same reason you are experiencing.
Dr.
Liz
- Well, if they're growling at each other, they're vying
for pack dominance. And if AJRN is letting them"work
it out between them" which is what I sense is happening,
that's a formula for trouble.
kikfrd
- Is this when AJRN has to stand up and be the leader?
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN and the puppy should be working on pack structure
with AJRN clearly being the pack leader. Same for AJRN and
the older dog.
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, in a manner of speaking, yes.
AJRN
- oh---ok, so what do I do---just keep then separate and
for how long
kikfrd
- poorly put :-) thanks
Dr.
Liz
- It's never a good idea to let a puppy and an older dog
"work it out between them."
RosieTara
- Oops...3 4months old Rottweiler Puppies are visiting Tara
tomorrow....Good or bad?
AJRN
- OMG, I did not realize this
Dr.
Liz
- RT, depends on how they are with pack structure, and how
YOU are with being pack leader.
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, a lot of people don't.
AJRN
- I did not know this Dr. Liz
AJRN
- this is all new to me
Dee
& kids
- often teh human being the leader is the toughest part
of that whole process
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, it'll depend on how clearly and how quickly YOU
assert your pack leadership.
RosieTara
- Liz, I am not Tara's Alpha...Karl is....
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, being a true pack leader is something many humans
know little about.
Dr.
Liz
- RT, then Karl needs to be around w hen the pups are around.
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz, what is your opinion of Ceasar Millan?
Dee
& kids
- but once you see how much more effective it can be to
having a balanced household, you never go back
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, there's a lot about him I love very much.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, precisely!
kikfrd
- cool! me too!
Dr.
Liz
- His "big three" are exercise, discipline, and
affection.
Dr.
Liz
- In that order.
Dee
& kids
- anything about Ceasar you don't agree with Dr LIz?
kikfrd
- I want that poster! :-)
Dr.
Liz
- I think he'd improve by stressing two other very important
points.
RosieTara
- He will....the puppies are surrounded by older Rottweilers
, too....our friend have 7 of them...very beautiful well
behaved animals...
Dr.
Liz
- The first point is "establishing pack leadership."
Exercise is not enough for that.
Dr.
Liz
- The second point is, "ongoing mental stimulation."
He doesn't really address that at all.
Dr.
Liz
- RT, then you're likely to be fine.
kikfrd
- RT make sure you have a camera! that should be fun
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, I echo you point ... RT, DO have a camera around!!!!
RosieTara
- Kikfrd...I will....they are sooo cute !
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, so it's not that I don't agree with Cesar Milan.
I love his work. It's just that I add two more points.
Dee
& kids
- SOUNDS LIKE FUN RT
Marge
- RT ... has Tara been around many other dogs including
puppies ?
Dr.
Liz
- Smudge appears to have finally gotten quiet.
Dee
& kids
- i understand fully why you add those in
Dr.
Liz
- I don't want to give him attention if it will reinforce
his soft whining/barking in his crate.
kikfrd
- shhh... dont type that! he may wake up!
Dee
& kids
- who (if anyone) is he sharing your home with animals wise??
Dr.
Liz
- When he's totally quiet, I'll go praise and softly reward
him. I want to reward the calm, submissive, relaxed behavior.
RosieTara
- Marge ...all the time...I walk her everyday in a park
, along the beach with manny dogs of all sizes...she loves
them all...me , too :)))a
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd! LOL!
Dee
& kids
- stay strong Dr Liz...lol
Dr.
Liz
- RT, sounds like fun!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee! LOL!
Marge
- Yes, RT, sounds like you'll have a fun day!!!
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz...seriously-does Fred not like me at times?
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- I have been trying to socialize Jake, I can't
wait to chat and hear his side of how its going...I sense
Jake did not have other dogs around much in her prevvious
home situation
Dee
& kids
- Kikfrd- Did Fred go after you again ???
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, the question of how to best socialize Jake is a great
one for a session!
kikfrd
- no...he only bites when i pet him
Dee
& kids
- He was so nice to me today.....hmmmm
kikfrd
- you're excited about the new doggy
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, well then, don't pet him! LOL!
Dee
& kids
- yes- it is one of my top questions : )
kikfrd
- DEE=stop rubbing it in. i get it enough from other people
:-)
RosieTara
- Dee...LOL
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... LOL!
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz... LOL!!
kikfrd
- I think my dad told you to say that!!
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, sometimes ignoring the animal is the best approach.
Marge
- kikfrd, is he very sensitive to touch?
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... so I'm channeling your Dad now? LOL LOL LOL
kikfrd
- Stop Stalking... LOL... I get it!
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- do you sense that Fred feels negatively towards
Marianne - even after your chat session?
RosieTara
- Liz...but it is sooo hard to do..
kikfrd
- LOL... I would always say "Dad it hurts when I do
this"... Well Don't do it
Marge
- i.e. ... maybe this is a longshot, but you know ... like
you would be if you're coming down with the flu and can't
stand to be touched?
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I sense that Marianne is hesitant and unclear around
Fred! LOL!
kikfrd
- He doesn't expect much so I can't screw up that much LOL
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... LOL!
RosieTara
- Marge, LoL !
Dee
& kids
- Marianne- does that feel true for you??? with Fred??/
Dee
& kids
- LOL
kikfrd
- Marge-Fred's had the flu for 7 years then
Dee
& kids
- LOL
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... ROTFLOL
Marge
- LOL kikfrd, LOL, LOL
RosieTara
- Kikfrd LOL
kikfrd
- I like to get the energy happy before prayer :-)
Dr.
Liz
- Smudge is definintely quiet now.
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd LOL
Dee
& kids
- Thats GREAT Dr Liz : )
kikfrd
- ... I don't know it makes me feel more connected
RosieTara
- Have sweet dreams, good old Smudge....
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... what? Fred biting you? Or laughing and being
in a happy mood before prayer?
Dee
& kids
- I was wondering that too Dr LIz...lol
Dr.
Liz
- Dee LOL!
kikfrd
- LOL! bunch of smart .....alecs!
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... great restraint there, for not typing what
you were thinking/feeling!
Dee
& kids
- brb- gotta check on the little one
Dr.
Liz
- Did the chat topic resonate with anyone here?
kikfrd
- I like to see all of the LOL's. If it's true that people
really are LOL'ing then we are feeling the same way at the
same time for a breif moment
RosieTara
- Alec is my grandson's name...kikfrd...:)
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... yes!
kikfrd
- I don't know what the topic is
Dr.
Liz
- Or is it just me?
kikfrd
- RT LOL! where's spell check when I need it
RosieTara
- :))))
Marge
- I'm glad I saw the 'biting' part, because for a minute
there, I was wondering if Fred was a dog or a human
Dr.
Liz
- Well, I seem to remember suggesting that we share loving
and attachment and being free and the mix of that ... and
how we establish balance in that area.
Dr.
Liz
- Marge! LOL!
RosieTara
- Marge...:)))
Dr.
Liz
- Fred COULD be my younger granson, he's in the stage that
he bites now! They all go through it, hopefully quickly!
kikfrd
- Marge... I'm not that lucky...I think (not sure what you
were reading so don't take that the wrong way)
Dee
& kids
- yes- Dr Liz- how have you been doing in your curent situation
with the new "way" you shared with us last chat?
kikfrd
- Oh great! Soon the story will be I'm biting babies!
Marge
- LOL Kikfrd
kikfrd
- Dee-watch out!
Dee
& kids
- LOL Kikfrd
Dr.
Liz
- For example, I can easily get "attached" in
relationship, even though I "know" I "shouldn't".
I also know that the way to TRULY love is to be willing
to let someone go, or let them be "free." I'm
not always great with the balance there. So I thought I'd
bring the topic up and see what your experiences are in
this area!
Dee
& kids
- keep away from cubicle 4!!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, it's working great. Thank you!
Marge
- kikfrd, I thought it was Fred doing the biting, not you?
lol
Dr.
Liz
- Marge! LOL!
kikfrd
- It's like the telephone game... stories always change
in the end
kikfrd
- Oh I love the "If you love them let them go"
Dee
& kids
- my experience is that if I approach a relationship with
also wanting the Truth, then I am more able to let go if
it isn't what I really want
RosieTara
- Liz, what kind of relationships, Love are we talking about...?
Dee
& kids
- with the understanding that if they don't also want to
be with me, then I can not really want them
Dr.
Liz
- RT, I was thinking partner/companion/intimate other, but
of course it always ends up being our relationship with
ourselves.
Dee
& kids
- because that isnt really what I want
kikfrd
- I've been on both sides of the let go and get away
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, that's a realization I had this past weekend. That
if the person doesn't want to be with me, then I can not
really want them, even though a part of me says I do.
RosieTara
- Dee, one can set somebody FREE and be with the person
at the same time...I guess
Dr.
Liz
- So it's time for me to realize that I must not really
want that person, and let it go.
Dee
& kids
- right- the "I want a realtionship" is what you
want, not necessarily THAT person
kikfrd
- Your love for them allows you to let them go and do what
they have to do.
Dr.
Liz
- RT, I believe that must be true.
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... unless I'm having a hissy fit.
Dee
& kids
- RT- that is the only way i think, that if they chose to
be with you , yet are totally free...then you know it is
real
kikfrd
- been there... done that!
kikfrd
- rock in hand and all one time LOL!!
Dr.
Liz
- I do have some buttons ... like having someone say they're
going to call or be somewhere, then they change their mind,
and don't call or let me know until 4 or more hours later
... and then tell me they changed their minds!
RosieTara
- The older one gets the easier it becomes....remember all
the DRAMAs when one is young....terrrible !
kikfrd
- OH That's a no-no
Dr.
Liz
- RT, yes, I am very tired of the drama!
Dee
& kids
- better with age RT ....lol
Marge
- I agree, RT
RosieTara
- Dee, real and full of trust !!
Marge
- we're not getting older, we're getting wiser
Dee
& kids
- don't get caught in the drama net
kikfrd
- but to be disrespected so blatantly is not always easy
to overlook. One can get balanced but the emotion is real
and should be honored
Dr.
Liz
- We hurt our OWN feelings by the meaning we give things,
this I know well.
Dee
& kids
- RT- with age comes the self confidence that allows you
to not depend as much on others to help you feel "full"
Dr.
Liz
- And this weekend I gave some MEANING to the fact that
someone didn't call, and when we DID finally speak, he actually
told me he decided it was "too much running around"
(meaning too much driving) to meet me where we had decided
we would meet.
kikfrd
- Since my recent enlightenment I've learned to spot drama
a mile away.
Dr.
Liz
- And I gave it a MEANING that meant I was feeling rejected
and disrespected.
Dee
& kids
- the disreaspect is hard to swallow
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... LOL!
RosieTara
- Liz...all my RED lights are flashing !!!!
kikfrd
- communicate communicate communicate (gee- I hope i spelled
that right)
Dr.
Liz
- If I had given it no meaning, then I would have felt fine.
Dee
& kids
- right- you perspective of what his action meant, only
cause hurt for yourself, somethingthat he probably never
intended to do to you
Dr.
Liz
- If I hadn't been attached to seeing him, I would have
been fine.
Marge
- Liz, we do that to ourselves alright
kikfrd
- But can we go through life without giving meaning to things?
Dr.
Liz
- But I was really looking forward to seeing him ... woke
up singing Sunday morning ...
RosieTara
- Liz, maybe you had to learn that way what to do !
Dee
& kids
- it helps to know that everything happens for a reason
kikfrd
- awww... that stinks... been there too
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- ok you gotta share- what were you singing...lol)
kikfrd
- Dee LOL!
RosieTara
- If he WANTS you he will come to you.....anyway !
Dr.
Liz
- Well, in my hissy fit attitude, I told him that when he
had figured out how to NOT put me in the category of "too
much running around" (meaning too much driving), and
if he would agree to let me know as soon as he knew, that
he was changing his mind, then I'd see him again. Otherwise,
not.
Dr.
Liz
- The "too much driving", by the way, is a 45
minute drive. Not very much by my standards.
Dee
& kids
- well, you needed to set that boundary...good for you
Dr.
Liz
- RT, and if he doesn't, according to Dee's logic, then
I don't want HIM ... LOL!!! See, that's exactly what I wanted
to listen to people's thought and experiencees about tonight!
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz-LOL! I love to see someone who is as enlightened
as you still dealing with everyday "stuff"
RosieTara
- That's "short distance " here in Down Under
...:)))
Marge
- here too, RT
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... well there are times when I don't feel very
enlightened!!!! LOL!
Dee
& kids
- LOL Kikfrd
kikfrd
- Then there's a lesson to be learned (all kidding aside)
RosieTara
- kikfrd...true
Dr.
Liz
- The funny thing is, that I'm noticing, that it simply
doesn't matter any more what my own personal mood might
be ... the amazing healings, insights, etc., come anyway
now ...
Dr.
Liz
- It's just better for my own equanimity, when I'm not throwing
hissy fits! LOL!
kikfrd
- What is this? Rub it in my face day? LOL! First Dee and
Fred, now Dr. Liz and insights!
Dr.
Liz
- I sat next to an 88 year old man at Christmas dinner,
all I did was sit next to him, and over the course of two
hours, he went from barely any energy at all, to walking
and talking and joking.
Dee
& kids
- (Kikfrd- thought sometimes you do need to call for the
WAAAmbulance...lol)
kikfrd
- LOL!
RosieTara
- Liz, can you give us HIS email address please....he will
get an multi cultural lesson !!!!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee ... WAAAmbulance? Oh, I get it!!!
Dee
& kids
- RT-LOL
kikfrd
- Oh Don't go there!!!
Dr.
Liz
- RT, he's not on the Internet!
Marge
- did he eat anything Liz? (just kidding)
Dee
& kids
- kikifred-how do i explain that one to Dr Liz???
kikfrd
- I'm still wondering what song Dr. liz was singing
RosieTara
- Pardon me ? Liz !
Dr.
Liz
- Kikrd, you mean on Sunday morning?
Dee
& kids
- read WAAA - as crying...then attach ambluance)
Marge
- Holy smokes!!!
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz-yes
kikfrd
- Marge = dee= LOL!!
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, first, I woke up singing the Ave Maria. Then I
sang the Pie Jesu.
RosieTara
- Liz I was meant your freind who doesn"t like driving
45 minutes...
Dr.
Liz
- In Latin of course. Both of them.
Dr.
Liz
- RT, I missed your question ... type it in again ???
kikfrd
- huh... good choices... not one's i could do off the top
of my head...or even karaoke LOL
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, I wouldn't even imagine they'd be ON karaoke!
Dee
& kids
- LOL kikfrd
RosieTara
- We could all send your friend an email ...telling him
our opinion
kikfrd
- LOLing... be right back...
RosieTara
- Just joking , of course...:)))
Dr.
Liz
- RT, if he had an email, I'd surely give it to you!
Dee
& kids
- RT- just send him the transcript of this chat...lol
Dr.
Liz
- He's on the "outernet" not the "internet"
LOL!
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- LOL
Marge
- LOL Dee
kikfrd
- please delete the part about me biting people
RosieTara
- Dee....very good idea..that's it !
Dee
& kids
- heehee
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ROTFLOL
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... still laughing here ... LOL
Marge
- LOL Kikfrd
kikfrd
- me too
RosieTara
- Liz...I believe the "outernet" is better for
him...:)
kikfrd
- ahhh group hug
Dr.
Liz
- Sigh. Well, I "wanted" a boyfriend. I HAVE a
new dog! LOL!
kikfrd
- careful what you ask for
Dr.
Liz
- or more correctly, you know, I asked for a male companion.
Well, I have a new male companion, he just has 4 legs!
kikfrd
- He'll be a better communicator
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... he already is!
RosieTara
- Liz, maybe that's the reason why Smudge chose YOU'
kikfrd
- LESSON LEARNED! LOL
Dr.
Liz
- I wonder sometimes if for some reason, I'm just not supposed
to HAVE a male companion in my life because when I DO, I
get distracted from my work and mission ...
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- remember what happened to Cheryl....she wanted
a new man in her life, and the found out that her Cat Champ
wasn't a girl after 9 years of having her, but a HIM, she
declared to the Universe that "that was not what I
meant"
Marge
- Liz is your 4-legged better looking?
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... what lesson was learned? And by whom? Pray
tell! LOL!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee LOL I had forgotten that!
RosieTara
- Liz, listen to an old friend....ENJOY your FREEDOM !!!
Dee
& kids
- possibly Dr liz
Marge
- Dee, that's hilarious!
kikfrd
- You asked the Universe for a male companion... you put
it out there... Like Cheryl, make your intention clear
Dr.
Liz
- Marge,he's really easy to look at ... :)
Dee
& kids
- so now my sister is much more specific with her "wishes"...lol
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... well, I DO have a male companion now ...
Marge
- Liz, who your dog?
kikfrd
- RT-that's spoken like someone who's commited (in a relationship)
Dee
& kids
- (sorry for the double entry- this babysitter is using
a strange keyboard...lol)
Dr.
Liz
- Interestingly, he's MUCH more fun to walk with ... the
new companion ... the 4-legged one ... I DID ask for a Walking
Buddy ... TOOOO funny!
RosieTara
- kikfrd...spot on !!! LOL
kikfrd
- what baby?
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I was doing that, too, it may not be just your keyboard!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, how are your friends doing with their loss? It's
lovely that you are there to help out tonight.
Dee
& kids
- though i am finding that I'm spelling better on this one
kikfrd
- insert theme song from the twilight zone
Marge
- Liz, was Smudge your Christmas present?
Dr.
Liz
- RT ... you're the third person this week to tell me that!
Dee
& kids
- actually-it is my sister friend who had teh loss, and
I hear he isnt takin git too well, but b/c I am babysitting,
they are able tospend more time with him now
Dee
& kids
- thank you for asking Dr lIz
Dr.
Liz
- Marge, I just got him today. I first saw him on Petfinder
about a week ago.
Dr.
Liz
- He's a 2009-Life present from the Universe.
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- what was his name - maybe his picture is still
on there and we can see him !
Marge
- How wonderful!!!
RosieTara
- Oh Smudge ...did you hear that ???
Dr.
Liz
- Marge, he's a collie-or-sheltie-shepherd-blond-lab mix,
I think ... 10+ years old. Incredibly good dog.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I believe he probably is! His name is Smudge and
he was at the Almost Home Animal Shelter in Pennsauken,
NJ.
Marge
- Oh, now that's SO wonderful to adopt an older dog. Or
maybe he adopted you, Liz
Dr.
Liz
- I just checked, his listing is still there! They're calling
him a sheltie but he really isn't!
Dee
& kids
- it needs a zip code
RosieTara
- Marge, I think so , too !
kikfrd
- HE IS GORGEOUS!
Dr.
Liz
- Do a google search on "almost home" "smudge"
"pennsauken" and you'll get right to the link!
Marge
- will do
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, he is, isn't he???? <VERY BIG SMILE> He
has HUGE brown eyes!
kikfrd
- you can get lost in those eyes! did you ask for that too?
Dee
& kids
- he is BEAUTIFUL
Dee
& kids
- http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12559037
Dr.
Liz
- Click here: Adopt a Shetland Sheepdog Sheltie: Smudge:
Petfinder
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I tried to get that link to go into the chat, how
did you do that?
Dee
& kids
- what Stunning markings!!
Dee
& kids
- copy and paste
Dr.
Liz
- Mine didn't keep it's "link" status when I copied
it!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee ... LOL ... I did a copy and paste too and it didn't
work! TOOO funny!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, yes, he is stunning!
kikfrd
- I would love to hear his story. it seems that there is
a lot of, not just intelligence, but knowledge
Dee
& kids
- Im using Safari-maybe it is the browser
Dr.
Liz
- Tanaka and Alex both had STUNNING markings, too!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I'm using AOL. Thank you!
kikfrd
- Dee- you're just a nerd :-)
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, yes, he is VERY wise!
Dee
& kids
- Kikfrd- : P
kikfrd
- (she's going to pick on me at work tomorrow, I just know
it)
Rosietara
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Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... LOL!
Dee
& kids
- yeah- you biter...lol
kikfrd
- Just in time! Hi Ro
Marge
- time for prayers?
Dr.
Liz
- RT, did you get knocked off?
kikfrd
- LOL!!!
Rosietara
- I found Smudge...very cute, but lost you...weird..u
Dr.
Liz
- Marge, LOL, PAST time for prayers!!! Thank you!
AJRN
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Rosietara
- cute...
Dee
& kids
- (I already got something for you tomorrow kikfrd...heeheee)
Dee
& kids
- yes..prayers
kikfrd
- oh man! Dr. Liz- Quick! sense her!@
Rosietara
- He is just beautiful !!! So much wisdom in his eyes ...
Dr.
Liz
- All .. please choose your Names for the Divine, and key
them into the chatroom now ...
Dr.
Liz
- RT, yes, he is VERY wise! That's what called me, his wisdom!
kikfrd
- Univers
Marge
- Lord, Sacred Universe
kikfrd
- e
Dee
& kids
- Divine Love
Rosietara
- dear Father in Heaven
Dr.
Liz
- Holy Spirit, Sacred Universe
Dee
& kids
- (kikfred did you say "E'?...lol)
Dr.
Liz
- Sacred Universe, Univers, Divine Love, Lord, Dear Father
in Heaven, Holy Spirit, "E", we joyfully and happily
call on you now!
Dr.
Liz
- We celebrate your energy, which is in us, as we are in
You!
Dr.
Liz
- Our hearts open as we in-fill with your Grace, your Joy,
your Healing!
Dr.
Liz
- And we extend this same joy, grace, and healing now, to
those in the basket of blessings, before me ... each in
the way that works best .. perhaps beaming your hands towards
the computer screen ... or visualizing the basket and beaming
the basket ...
Dr.
Liz
- And it is so! Amen!
Dr.
Liz
- It is time now, to enter the names of any other people,
animals, or situations, for which healing prayer is desired!
Dee
& kids
- Amen
Rosietara
- Amen ! Thank you !
Marge
- Amen and thank you
Dee
& kids
- For Smudge- that he settle into his forever home, feeling
the safty and love that surrounds him now
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, thank you! :)
kikfrd
- For Smudge, For Kiki and Fred, may I stop stalking them
AJRN
- Dobbie and Lilly in our Lord's name, thank you from my
heart.
Dee
& kids
- for kiKi, Suki and Taki- that guidance be with the vet
as tehy are spayed tomorrow, and swift recovery for them
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... LOL ... and Thank you, Ms. Stalker ... LOL
Rosietara
- May peace , love and respect grow within my close family
Dr.
Liz
- For Kiki, Suki, and Taki, and within a day they don't
even remember their surgeries!
Dee
& kids
- For Fred that her release any issues he holds about his
tail, and for Kiki - the support for her continued improved
health
kikfrd
- For AJRN, that was a wonderful thing
Dr.
Liz
- I meant "that within a day" not "and within
a day".
Dee
& kids
- Thank you Dr liz
kikfrd
- Kiki's not getting fixed-don't send her the wrong energy
please LOL!
Marge
- for Smudge, Kiki, Fred, Suki, Taki and all our animal
friends
kikfrd
- it happened already... don't do it again.. we have enough
to deal with
Rosietara
- Smudge may you have some beautifu years with Liz, your
companion
Dr.
Liz
- Correction to the Universe! For Kiki, and also for Suki
and Taki, who are getting spayed, that within a day, they
don't remember their surgeries!
kikfrd
- amen
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd ... LOL!
Rosietara
- Tara, that she feels better soon
Dee
& kids
- nicely put Dr lIz
Dr.
Liz
- RT, thank you! Marge, t hank you!
Marge
- for Tara
Dee
& kids
- that guidance fill my chat session with Dr Liz and Betty,
Henry & Jake...Zoe etc- whoever wants to participate...lol)
kikfrd
- for us all
Marge
- for Tara, may the visit by the puppies brighten her and
help her feel better
Rosietara
- Thanks Marge.
Dee
& kids
- for all of us, that we learn to let go of what we really
don't want in relationships
Marge
- for 'balance' in all of our lives
Dee
& kids
- yes- that teh puppyy visit go beatuifully
Rosietara
- Dee, wonderful thought
AJRN
- Dr, Liz thank you---I am so sorry I missed most of this
but I will be in touch with you. Bless you for your sweet
gentle energy. Goodnight.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, that rhymes ... That Gui-dance fill my Chat Ses-sion
with Dr.-Liz, Betty, Henry, and Jake ... and Zoe, etc.,
and who-ever Else, Wants to Par-ti-ci-pate! LOL!
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, thank you for joining us!
Dee
& kids
- AJRN-prayers that you new puppy adjust well
Dr.
Liz
- Marge, yes, yes!
Marge
- night AJRN
Dee
& kids
- LOL
AJRN
- Thank you Dee! and night nignt Marge! love you all!
Dee
& kids
- poet and I dont even know it...lol
Rosietara
- AjRN sweet dreams !
Dee
& kids
- night AJRN
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, there are some great videos available on establishing
pack structure ... and also on introducing pups and older
dogs.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee ... LOL!
AJRN
- I will be back again when I am not so distracted here
at home
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN ... loves and hugs!
Marge
- Dee ... that's good! lol
Rosietara
- Liz, can you sense anything wrong with Tara?
Dee
& kids
- i must go too...that all for a great chat tonight...i'll
email you Dr Liz for time for the chat
AJRN
- thank you dr. Liz xo I will be in touch. I live in Bridgeton,
NJ.
Dr.
Liz
- All... thanks for being here ... thanks for joining in
... thanks for being such a wonderful group of people!
Marge
- must go now, night all and God Bless
Marge
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Rosietara
- Night, Dee !
Dr.
Liz
- AJRN, I have some amazing friends who live in Bridgeton!
Welcome, another Bridgeton friend!
Dr.
Liz
- Bye for now! See you next time!
Dr.
Liz
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Thu Jan 8 10:38pm ET)
kikfrd
- Good Night all!
Rosietara
- Okay.. you all have sweet dreams....see you next time...take
care till then !,
Dee
& kids
- night AJRN
Rosietara
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AJRN
- Goodnight Dee and thank you. Addie
AJRN
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