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Dr.
Elizabeth Severino & the
Angel-Wonder Powers Team
Chat'N'Pray
February 19, 2009
"Unconditional Love"
Dr. Liz's note: This is one of the best
Chat'N'Prays ever.
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kikfrd
- Hi!
Dr.
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Dr.
Liz
- Hi!
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz - can you share any information about Travis the
chimp?
Dee
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Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, for some reason, I wasn't drawn to following
that story.
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Dee!
Dee
& kids
- Hi everyone!!
kikfrd
- ok
Dr.
Liz
- What did the news reports say?
Dee
& kids
- DR LIZ- I FEELLIKE I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE,
HOW ARE YOU??
Dee
& kids
- (sorry, Betty stepped on the caps lock key...lol)
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, Dear One, I'm fine, how are you?
Dr.
Liz
- Tooo funny! I love that our animals join us during our
Chats!
Dee
& kids
- doing good, getting into the practice of channeling.....
kikfrd
- It was a very tough story to watch so I don't have
a lot of details but a pet chimp attacked a woman's
freind.
kikfrd
- I just thought dee was THAT excited :-)
Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, was the chimp put down?
Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, I had that thought briefly, too ... LOL ...
at least until I read her second type in!!!!
kikfrd
- The owner had to stab the chimp to get him to stop attacking.
She called 911 and you could hear him screaming in the back
ground. eventually cops showed up and shot him.
kikfrd
- It was a very dramatic experience for all involved.
Dr.
Liz
- The cops followed procedures. Procedures say to shoot
the attacking animal if it cannot otherwise be restrained.
kikfrd
- the chimp was attacking the police. he went so far as
to open a cruiser door and that cop shot him
kikfrd
- after Travis was shot he went back to his bed and died.
kikfrd
- Supposedly the woman gave him zanex but now she is denying
that.
Dr.
Liz
- I've connected once with a chimp who was a "house
pet". The chimp was VERY attached to his female human,
and was VERY jealous of certain attentions paid to his human.
kikfrd
- Travis was gnawing at this woman's face and hands.
Dr.
Liz
- I wonder what perfume or scent she was wearing.
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Dr.
Liz
- Certain musk scents set animals off wildly.
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kikfrd
- so sad. how confused he must have been
kikfrd
- Hi Joanne
Dr.
Liz
- They set off some human animals wildly, too ... that's
why they're used in colognes and after-shave lotions.
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Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Joanne!
Dee
& kids
- hi joanne
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Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, nice choice of color!
kikfrd
- (my color was too close to Dr. Liz's ) :-)
kikfrd
- LOL
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Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Cheryl!
kikfrd
- Getting back to Dee's channeling- it's cool!
Dr.
Liz
- Let's see ... we may be working on desert colors
tonight ...
Cheryl
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Cheryl
& kids
- hi Dr. Liz!
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, Cheryl, what's happening? Are you getting kicked
out? Or are you getting blank screens suddenly?
joanne
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Dr.
Liz
- If you're getting blank screens, all you need to
do, is click on the back button of your browser. It will
take you back to the screen where you last typed something
in.
Cheryl
& kids
- I'm having difficulty seeing the chat--I logged
off....I'm going to try another server...be right
back : )
Dr.
Liz
- Then you can either erase what you last typed in, and
type something else in, or hit "Update" and enter
it again ... as I've done twice already here tonight!
LOL!
Cheryl
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Cheryl
& kids
- I find that aol...while not great for anything else..lol...is
good for me with your chat
Dee
& kids
- now I am on Safari (mac) and doing fine, cheryl is right
next to me on her computer, Safari is giving her trouble....hmmm
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz-my sister's cat Tigger finished his rescue
remedy treatment. Can you sense whether it worked? She doesn't
seem to notice a difference in Tig's behavior. (or
maybe Hobb's has something to say to that:-)
Dr.
Liz
- I sign on via AOL also.
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Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, I'd need a fresher connection to Tigger.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne? Everything okay?
kikfrd
- ok. we'll be in touch for that real soon ;_0
Dr.
Liz
- When were you last with him? Tigger, I mean?
Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz...it's been a number of weeks since my
kitten, Kiki passed (from the allergic reaction to her spaying)
and in the last 2 weeks I've seen tremendous "activity"
in her favorite toy around the hosue : )
kikfrd
- hmmm-I think july
Dr.
Liz
- Cheryl, feels from here, that would be her, letting you
know she's fine.
kikfrd
- awww
Dee
& kids
- how cute
Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, LOL, well, that would be why I feel the connection
is too weak!!!!!
kikfrd
- I'll see if maybe my sister can get him to join
the chat
Cheryl
& kids
- I can totally feel that...if there were anything in this
house that she could "contact" me with--he (and
i) both know that wold be the thing
Dee
& kids
- after our last "household" connection chat Dr
liz- all the cats here are seeming to be more "lovey
dovey"
Dr.
Liz
- Cheryl, that's really sweet.
joanne
- Are you getting this message? I can only see the chat
in framefree mode and I'm using Mozilla?
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, yes we're getting your message I've
never done Framefree, so I'm not sure what that does.
Dee
& kids
- jpoanne- we can see U
Cheryl
& kids
- I can see you just fine joanne
Dr.
Liz
- I'm using AOL, although some feel that Mozilla
is the browser that works best.
Dee
& kids
- I toggle between AOl & safari & firefox..each
week something works ok
Dr.
Liz
- Dee LOL LOL LOL
Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz...in the last fw weeks we all here have had many
conversations about the healing properties of water, and
how charged water, even mollecularly looks different under
a microscope--and since our bodies are predominantly water,
we understand the significance of the power of positive
energy
joanne
- I've tried both browsers and neither is working.
In order to enter info I loose the screen. I miss a lot
of what's going on.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I'm glad the cats are move "lovey dovey".
:)
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Dee
& kids
- me too Dr liz- it is a nice "change"
kikfrd
- tigger's on his way :-)
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, what does "loose the screen" mean to
you? If you mean it goes white, that happens to me sometimes
too, I just click on the back arrow of the browser and it
comes back again.
joanne
- I'm going to try to download Safari.
Dr.
Liz
- Or I click on the back arrow, and then click Update again,
and it all comes back.
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kikfrd
- I think it's a pop up blocker problem.
Dr.
Liz
- It just occurred to me I could log on as Mr. Smudge ...
except he's sleeping at my feet now.
Dr.
Liz
- I have my pop-ups blocked.
Dee
& kids
- that would be honoring Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz
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Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz....I think it wold be such an honor to use his
name--why don't you re-log in as as "Mr. Smudge"
Dr.
Liz
- Well, I just kicked myself off by trying something else
that didn't work to refresh the screen!!!!
Dee
& kids
- I always add "kids' whether they are physically
with me or not, they are always in my heart
Dr.
Liz
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Cheryl
& kids
- Hi Mr. Smudge!
Mr.
Smudge
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Liz & Mr. Smudge
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Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- There that's better.
Cheryl
& kids
- Perfect!
Dee
& kids
- PERFECT!! Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- He's sleeping.
Dee
& kids
- you're welcoming email for Mr Smudge was adorable
Dr lIz
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- He had a bit of a traumatic experience yesterday as part
of his acupuncture session.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, thank you. He's such a joy. :) I loved writing
that email.
Cheryl
& kids
- what happened?
Dee
& kids
- what happened?
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- They couldn't find all the acupuncture needles.
Not uncommon ... but 3 vet techs and then the vet herself
couldn't find them. He was traumatized by all the
hands running all over him. He fled to the corner. I finally
threw a hissy fit to the Universe, a quiet one, but a strong
one, and then suddenly my hand rubbed the fur under his
left chest and the needle fell out to the floor.
kikfrd
- Tigger is here but he doesn't have the chat box
at the top of the screen...
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- But he avoided me for a while after that. It was heartbreaking
for me. I guess we all face that balance of doing the interventions
that we know will help, and yet, the animal has trouble
receiving it or something goes a little wrong during the
process and the animal gets upset.
Cheryl
& kids
- It's all in the perception of the event
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl, what I learned, is to make sure I myself know
where all the needles are.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And not to leave it to the vet or the vet techs. They
seem to think it's funny, an attitude I personally find
rather insensitive.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Marianne, Tigger's telling me he didn't
get the rescue remedy every day .... is that correct, do
you know?
kikfrd
- Not sure... tigger's mom is downloading another
program to see if that opens up the chat window
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- OK
Joanne
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Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Joanne, is it working better for you now?
kikfrd
- this is a crazy connection chat tonight
Dee
& kids
- tigger a tattle tale...lol
kikfrd
- LOL!!!
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- Tiiger says he didnt rec. RR every day- what difference
did he feel it made..if any?
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Well, at least the connection's there now!!!
kikfrd
- I just called her and she emphatically states the RR was
put in the water LOL
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Well, he feels it helped him.
kikfrd
- Although he may not have seen her do it
Tigger
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Dee
& kids
- awesome
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- LOL that's funny!
kikfrd
- should they continue?
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Dee
& kids
- Hi Tigger!
Cheryl
& kids
- Hi Tigger!
kikfrd
- she still doesn't have it...
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Yes, continue it. We may need a short session to see if
something else is needed.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Hmmm. It's time for our Chat topic.
kikfrd
- ok. we can do that
Dee
& kids
- YES...UNCONDITIONAL LOVE....
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- I wanted to talk tonight about unconditional love because
I had an incredible insight about it last week.
Cheryl
& kids
- Do tell, do tell!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- First, each person, type in what you feel unconditional
love is ... according to your current understanding. :)
Dee
& kids
- share Dr Liz...
Dee
& kids
- Love w/o judgement
Cheryl
& kids
- Love without judgement
kikfrd
- shouldn't all love be unconditional?
Dee
& kids
- now I admit, it isn't always easy to hold that
definition of unconditional love...so I do go between Love
& uncond. love
Cheryl
& kids
- and animals know it--that is where we can learn it from
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- What is "love" to you ... Dee? Cheryl?
Dee
& kids
- true love is Kikfrd, but it is not aways easy to do that
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Dee
& kids
- "love" is a deep caring and acceptance of another....
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- If you are not feeling judgement, is that the same, as
feeling loving?
rosietara
- Hi everybody...sorry I am late..another crazy Friday :)
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Hi, RT! Welcome!
kikfrd
- love is being in the moment and acting out of love
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- She's wearig Friday's green, it's
Friday in Australia!
Dee
& kids
- but acceptance w.o judgement is another level i think
Dee
& kids
- Hi RT!
rosietara
- I will just "listen" for awhile...okay?
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- When you feel or think about or sense, 'unconditional
love'. where is the energy, relative to yourself
and another?
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- RT, we just now started the topic, unconditional love.
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Dee
& kids
- heart through crown, on some level it sits in each chakra
Cheryl
& kids
- Love is the constant connection to anothers true self
which is always congruent in the feeling of true oneness
"
rosietara
- Oh...that's great !
Dee
& kids
- unconditional love that is
Dee
& kids
- i think "love" can feel lower
kikfrd
- uh... huh huh
Cheryl
& kids
- Unconditional love vibrates very high--it's a feeling
of elatedness, not necessarily hugs and kisses
Dee
& kids
- unconditional love doesn't feel fear, where i thin
the traditional def. of love can/does
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- OK. A question. Who here, when you think about unconditional
love, thinks about your behavior relative to another ...
like another person ... or perhaps the behavior of an animal
who is demonstrating unconditional love?
rosietara
- Dee..right.....warm feeling in heart and breast area
kikfrd
- ME! I do I do!
Dee
& kids
- unconditional love feels more like a feeling rather than
any action/behavior
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- For me, I used to think that unconditional love was being
loving and kind and nonjudgemental to any and everyone.
Has anyone else here, held that thought?
Cheryl
& kids
- I think unconditional love exists between us and our "God"
or "Higher energy source"...I'm not sure
we are capable, in our human form to experience it....I
think we strive toward it, but when we see an animals love,
which I think better demonstrates unconditional love, I'm
not sure I know f any human who can eplicate it
Dee
& kids
- unconditional oneness with anohter, despite how they act,
it just loves THEM
kikfrd
- It is feeling but when dealing with another person or
animal you sometimes have to do the tough love thing
rosietara
- My love for Tara/Rosie is very deep and caring...never
felt this for a human being....
Cheryl
& kids
- In meditation, without the presence of ego--it seems easier
to conceptualize unconditional love
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- I personally always felt that I might not ever achieve
true unconditional love, at least not in "our society",
because I would always feel the need, let's say,
to stay out of certain city areas, or be alert in the subway,
etc. etc.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- In other words, to be circumspect or wise about who was
around me and what was going on... to not be a door-mat,
for example.
Cheryl
& kids
- Unconditional love I think exists only the the "NOW"
in the immediate "I AM"--they true honoring of
our true selves
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Anyway, I found that I was thinking about unconditional
love as a way of being or not being between myself and another
human, or other humans, or animals, for that matter.
Dee
& kids
- I think our HUMAN condition can not truely experience
unconditional love,, our learned human ways interfere,,
(fears, judgements etc)
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- What I realized about a week ago is, that isn't
it.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- The insight that came is, unconditional love actually
has nothing to do with what we feel towards another.
rosietara
- So true, Liz! Humans have the tendency to love and/ or
disappoint...animals simply cannot do that...they just love...
Dee
& kids
- i agree Dr Liz..we as a people needed the energy of what
Obama stands for
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- It has only to do with what we feel towards ourselves
... the light we allow to show us what's there, and
to love all parts of us.
Cheryl
& kids
- I belive that--Unconditional Love is a place of BEING!
not a felling we can put into words or actions.
Dee
& kids
- oops...the chat took an old typed log in and duplicated
it...ooops
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- So what we feel in an animal who is demonstrating unconditional
love, is actually, their unconditional love for themselves
... they are who they are ... and their celebration of the
moment.
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- do animals ALWAYS show unconditional love??or
can they fall to the same "ewgo" that we fall
to???
rosietara
- Liz, never saw it THAT way....Hmmm
Dee
& kids
- "ego"
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And since we perceive and receive that, it feels to us,
as unconditional love. So it starts with us ... the unconditional
love of us for ourself ...
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- "Think" about it ... when we love ourselves
unconditionally, we love ourselves without judgement ...
we love ourselves with acceptance ... and then that is what
we radiate, because that is what we have become. It's all
about what is going on inside of us, that radiates out ...
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And when we love ourselves unconditionally, we celebrate
ourselves ... so we become that energy, too.
rosietara
- True !
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And interestingly, it has practically nothing to do with
what we 'do' or 'don't do'
to another ... it's how we are BE-ING that matters.
Dee
& kids
- exactly Dr Liz!
kikfrd
- We've been discussing something like this all week
in a way.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And when we are celebrating ourselves non-judgementally,
with acceptance and "light", then what flows is
the correct action regarding other people or situations
... whatever that may be.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Kikfrd, we indeed must all be on the same wave length,
whether in direct contact, or not! LOL!
Dee
& kids
- wonder twin powers activate!!!!!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- On my web-site years ago, I placed a short description
of the only 3 actions for someone on a spiritual path ....
to join with, to serve, or to be away from.
kikfrd
- My mother is a force to be reckoned with and I realize
it has nothing to do with her. It has to do with me.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- They still are the 3 actions ... but the who that we are
in our core, is what may change.
Dee
& kids
- it helps to be able to "see" every situation
that arrises from a point of non-judgement, not get sucked
into the drama of it, and then act (not re-act) to what
is going on.....
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Kikrd, good awareness!
kikfrd
- :-) happy seat dance :-)
Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz, what Dee and I have been currently working with
is energies that are "outside to conventional"
and we have been more "in-touch" with spirit and
energy realms that, now that I think of it...those relationships...with
people or animals from the emergy world, we have NO judgemnt
of them--they connection just "IS" and we can
just experience "being & interaction" with
them, without any periphial emotions
rosietara
- Dee..very hard to do :)
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, that's a definition of "wisdom"
....
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl, precisely. Beautiful!!!
kikfrd
- I've been seeing this situation occur in many different
places this week. My family, neighbors, work... huh... is
there any other place I'm missing it? I'm
only missing my home... Does Kiki and Fred want to tell
me something?
Dee
& kids
- a "knowing"...again, a non-judgement knowing...clear
truth
Cheryl
& kids
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Dee
& kids
- seeing things "as they are"
Dee
& kids
- I beleive if you are "connected" to your higher
self, then you have a resource to call upon for "wisdom"
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- I've come to believe that wisdom is something we
receive from our connected state.
Cheryl
& kids
- Truth is, when we connect to the higher energy spirits
and energies, in fact, it doesn't feel like "love
as we know it" at all...but the implicit trust and
connection to truth that you know you have with htem might
in fact be that unconditional love
Dee
& kids
- yes Dr Liz...absentee ballot
Dee
& kids
- (sorry, this broweser likes to pick up old tyoed phrases
and enter them)
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl, I've come to believe that. It's
the awareness of the connection to the infinite web of the
spirit of life.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And it's not something we generally see or experience
in "normal" human relations.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- It's also usually beyond words, beyond spoken language,
although the impulses can be rendered into language.
Dee
& kids
- right Dr Liz- it seems like we are only aware of it if
we are AWARE ourselves...something which takes a bit of
practice to live by
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, too funny.
rosietara
- True Liz, and here it becomes so difficult...
Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz, I loved your topic for tonight--I think it is
monumental that we can recognize that that connection is
for each of us...and once we have that, there is a direct
pipeline to the Universe, God and love that is so much more
powerful that when many people here perceive as love--which
very often involves a bit of fear
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl, yes.
kikfrd
- Cheryl is on the money tonight@!
rosietara
- Very beautifully said, Cheryl
Cheryl
& kids
- (thank you all ) : )
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- I have come to realize that unconditional love is the
nature of the universe ... and when we feel it towards ourselves,
we become truly one with the universe.
Dee
& kids
- so is there a better term for it...love "vs"
Unconditional Love????
Dee
& kids
- better term for Unnditinal love...maybe w/o the term "love"
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, I'm not sure there is an appropriate word
for it ... I am VERY sure there is an appropriate feeling
of the connection with and the radiating of it.
Dee
& kids
- maybe Unconditional BEING"??
Cheryl
& kids
- Dee I like that
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- One philospher calls it "Love without Limits"
Dee
& kids
- right, but is the word love connote confusion with what
the definition of Love is?
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, yes, I feel there is much confusion among human-kind
as to what love is.
rosietara
- I think unconditional love happens mainly between mother
and child, humans and animals etc...love is something happing
between a man and a woman...etc....simply different in energy...Am
I right?
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Fully Be-ing Now.
rosietara
- Just touching the iceberg here of course...
Cheryl
& kids
- I think, in all honesty, that if you truely connect to
and can/have experienced this feeling--the word "unconditional"
is redundant--the energy of the feeling just "IS"...maybe
it is even simplier that our term...maybe it s ture sense
of "I AM"
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- The Greeks have multiple words for the one word we use
as love.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- They use "eros" to mean the passionate love
between a man and a woman.
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Liz & Mr. Smudge
- They use "ophelia" to mean the love of one who
is devotedly serving another.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And they use "philos" to mean the love of a
friend for a friend.
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Liz & Mr. Smudge
- They are others, but those are the main ones.
rosietara
- YES...Liz...that's what I mean.Thanks!
Dee
& kids
- Unconditional love encapsulates -1) unconditional, 2)
being in the now, 3) non fear, 4)oneness,5) connectness
to "God" (all that is)......
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl, I feel what you have just shared is True.
Dee
& kids
- I am, You are
Dee
& kids
- thats it!
Cheryl
& kids
- and I believe that there needs to be no explanation of
what that is...when you are "there" you just "know"
Dee
& kids
- and it isn't even that you accept it, it just IS!
Dee
& kids
- its past the energy of acceptance
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, it may be beyond the "I am, You are" because
at some level that is a conversation of separation, and
we're perhaps talking about connectedness. So "IS"
might be a good word.
Cheryl
& kids
- It supercedes everything
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- As you said, it just IS.
Cheryl
& kids
- There is nothing to oppose how it feels...in that "space"
there is nothing else
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- So what we at first were caling unconditional love, is
recognition of the state of fully IS.
Cheryl
& kids
- Unconditional love has no opposing energy....not in that
true energetic state
Dee
& kids
- i think thats it Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- How many people feel much more expanded now?
Cheryl
& kids
- ME....ME....ME!...or should I say I...I...I...lol
Dee
& kids
- this discussion makes me feel so ....IS!!!!
kikfrd
- i feel balanced
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl LOL LOL LOL
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee ... LOL LOL LOL
rosietara
- I think I start thinking now...:)
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- LOL
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Well, now that we are all IS ... it's time to do
the Prayers!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- LOL
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Please take a moment, and choose a Name, that works for
you, to represent all that is holy and sacred and divine
in your life, and key it into theChatroom.
Cheryl
& kids
- I "IS' in!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- The Sacred IS.
kikfrd
- don't think RT... just be
Dee
& kids
- (Dr Liz- thats a good one....lol)
rosietara
- LOL kikfrd
Dee
& kids
- Universal IS
Cheryl
& kids
- WOW....Dr. LIz...I love it!
Dee
& kids
- lol kikfrd
Cheryl
& kids
- Divine Universal "IS"
rosietara
- Father Who IS in Heaven
kikfrd
- Universal Being
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- The Sacred IS, the Universal IS, the Divine Universal
IS, Father Who IS in Heaven, Universal Be-ing , we Name
you and Call on you Now.
Dee
& kids
- should we change you Dr Liz- to Dr Lis???
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- You are in Us, We are in You, We combine Together.
rosietara
- Dee...:))))
kikfrd
- LOL!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- You in-fill us. We radiate You.
Cheryl
& kids
- I second that Dee!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- In-fill us even more completely and fully now, with your
power and grace.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- We set our intention to be of service to those for whom
prayer energy has been requested.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- We welcome your power and grace, that it may be directed
to be of service to those in the Basket. of Blessings,
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- All,visualize the Basket in whatever way works for you,
and send energy to those seeking help, in the Basket, in
whatever way works for you.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And as we breathe deeply, and gently, in and out, three
times, we connect ... we in-fill ... we radiate ...
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- And it is so.
Cheryl
& kids
- and it "IS" so
Dee
& kids
- and it IS so!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- The Energy has been sent.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Amen.
rosietara
- and so it IS ! Amen
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- It is time now, to enter the names of any other animals,
people, or situations, for whom healing prayer energy is
desired.
Dee
& kids
- for Jordan, that his burn heal quickly and with no scarring,
and that he release any trauma of his being burned
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- For the 5 dolphins caught in the ice in Western Canada,
that they be safely freed now.
Dee
& kids
- for Georgina & Frank- that the appropriate energies
surround eachof htem for healing so that they may be together
again
kikfrd
- for kiki, may body continue to accept her treatments
kikfrd
- for frank and georgina so they may be together again
rosietara
- For Sandra that she will have the energy to cop with her
life as a Mother of two very energetic children
Dee
& kids
- for Kiki- that she continue to accept healing to her body,
and that all energies help her to heal on all levels
kikfrd
- for tigger-help him to communicate
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- For A.B., that he learn to use peace and control instead
of violence.
kikfrd
- for my family this weekend... for me this weekend :-)
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- For N.S., that she find a path towards health now, and
embrace it.
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- should we address you now as Dr L"is"???
Dr.
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- Dee LOL LOL LOL
rosietara
- for nicholas and Alec that they will have a great peaceful
time in Australia and with Oma
kikfrd
- for travis, may he transition over well
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, that's really a good one! LOL LOL
Dee
& kids
- for kikfred- that this weekend bring about the energy
of change that can elevate her and her family to peace
Cheryl
& kids
- For Mr. Smudge, that he allow his treatment with out and
fear or anxiety
Dee
& kids
- i second that kikfrd
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- ForA.B., and N.S., that the trauma of this week be gentled
from their souls.
kikfrd
- for fred-may he continue to release
Dee
& kids
- i decond the prayer for Mr Smudge
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Kikfrd, yes, for Travis, a smooth transition, and blessings
on the next phase of his soul's journey.
rosietara
- How is Herr Smudge, Liz?
kikfrd
- for AB and NS
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl, Dee, thank you!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- RT, he had a problem during an acupuncture treatment yesterday.
He's a little "down" today.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- RT, on the whole, he's doing much better. I am
so blessed to have him in my life!
Cheryl
& kids
- for Tracey, that she come to a balanced perspective of
her life and feel inspired fto achieve balance in her life
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Kikfrd, thanks.
rosietara
- He will be happy again....it is not easy for an old gentlma
to learn about modern treatments...:)))
Dee
& kids
- Dr Liz- I felt that Niko's transition to this home
was a little rough, but I feel very confidernt now that
he embraces fully his being in our family
kikfrd
- for my mom-may she find courage to face her fears
rosietara
- gentleman
Dee
& kids
- amen Cheryl
Dee
& kids
- kikfred- amen
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- RT, he's had 3 successful acupuncture treatments
before. What spooked him, in his 4th one, was they couldn't
find all the needles, and 3 vet techs plus the vet, from
his perspective , "ganged up on him" and had their
hands all over him and it terrified him.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, I'm glad Niko's comfortable now.
rosietara
- Poor boy !! my love goes to him...and Tara's ,
too !
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- RT, that's so sweet. Thank you.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- For Kikfrd's Mom .... peace to her emotions, peace
to her mind, peace to her body, peace to her soul.
kikfrd
- well said. thank you all
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- <grin> And "IS"-ness for Kikfrd, in the
matter of her Mom!!!
Dee
& kids
- this chat was so energetically charged!
Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz...thank you so mch for being to us such an enlightening
topic for tonight
rosietara
- For S.M. may she live happy , healthyand peacefully without
her tablets
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee, I feel that way, too. We've all become strong
contributors to the energy and the unfoldings here. :) We
really are a TEAM!!!
Dee
& kids
- Be-in "is" ness..."b"is" ness
= we're in BISNESS!!!!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Cheryl, thank you for your inspired contributions. Thanks
to everyone here, for your contributions.
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- Dee LOL LOL LOL
rosietara
- I have to say Goodbye....so much still to do....thankyou
for the chat and energy and UNCONDITIONAL love !!!
kikfrd
- LOL!
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- RT (((HUGS)))
Dee
& kids
- night Rt
Cheryl
& kids
- G'Nite RT
Dr.
Liz & Mr. Smudge
- I'll be signing off now too. Thank you all for
joining in! See you in 2 weeks!
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kikfrd
- yes, thank you all again. I have to go give Kiki her fluids.
Dee
& kids
- night Dr lIz
kikfrd
- night guys!
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