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Elizabeth Severino & the Angel-Wonder Powers Team
Chat'N'Pray September 3, 2009
"Spiritual Archetypes - II" Dr. Liz shares a NEW insight
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Liz -
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Dr.
Liz -
Hi, Dot! Dot
- hello Dr.
Liz -
Is this your first time here?
Dot
- yes I'm having quite a time firguring this out
Dr.
Liz -
Hmmm. Top of your screen, there "SHOULD" be a Welcome to our Main Chatroom.
Below that, is a [Chat Help] [Framefree]. Below that is a white box. Type into
the white box. Then hit the grey button to the right that says Update. That will
post whatever you've typed into the Chatroom.
Dot
- ok, I think I have it now I usually am working at night but have been getting
your e-mail updates so thought I would check it out
Dr.
Liz -
I'm glad you did.
Dot
- I have found your e-mails and info to be very helpful. I currently have 5 dogs.
4 are rescues and the other has been with me for nearly 18 years so I have been
looking at alot of alternate help for their issues
Dr.
Liz -
I'm very happy to read that you're looking at a lot of alternate help for their
issues. Dr.
Liz -
I'm also happy to read you find the emails and info to be helpful. Thank you.
Dot
- I have had an animal communicator work with them and have alos done work with
TTouch and have obtained my reiki 1 & 2 to give them support on a regular
basis , but sometimes it is really difficult to know just what is the best for
them Dr.
Liz -
Yes, I understand!
Dr.
Liz -
Dot, do you meditate? I find meditation a wonderful assist in centering and gaining
clarity on right action.
Dot
- I think it's really great of you to offer your time to help people with their
prayers esp regarding their animals as most religions I have dealt with have very
little compassion for those of us who have problems with out pet companions rather
than our human family
Dr.
Liz -
Dot, one of the most eye-opening lectures I give, is the lecture, "Animals
and Spirituality". It often amazes people how what is TRULY taught at the
highest mystic levels regarding various world religions, is SO VERY DIFFERENT
from what the priests, ministers, rabbis, etc. who are not mystic, teach, do,
and say. There are religions, major ones, that believe it is FAR WORSE to hurt
an animal than a human, for example.
Dot
- I have tried to meditate but I seem to have a bit of a problem keeping focused
but have been attempting to work at it so I can be calmer in dealing with issues
that arise Dr.
Liz -
And yet when you ask the "local priest", they don't even know this.
Dr.
Liz -
Dot, I just today found an extraordinary way to meditate ... it's part of the
P.A.T.H.S. offering ... you put earphones on, go to a specific web-site, and let
it meditate you for 30 minutes ... you can also download it to your computer or
an MP3 player ...
Marge
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Marge
- Hi all Dr.
Liz -
I've been a meditator for a long time now ... I did this particular meditation
for the first time today and I found it to be gentle and very peaceful.
Dr.
Liz -
There is a theatre set up charge of $19.95 and a monthly "usage" fee
of $7.95 or something like that ... and they even personalize it to YOU ... it's
amazing how cheap it is ...
Dot
- That sounds like something I'll check out as it would probably help with my
focus Dr.
Liz -
Hi, Marge! Dr.
Liz -
Dot, the web-site is www.onepeacefulfield.com ... click on the "Meditation"
button that is two or three buttons down on the left-hand side ... I just did
it today ...
Dr.
Liz -
Dot, it helps with centering, which helps with focus ...
Dr.
Liz -
I've done a lot of much more expensive meditation programs including some which
cost hundreds of dollars ... I like this one a lot better ...
Dot
- Thank-you so much for that info and web address. I will definatly give it a
try Dr.
Liz -
I also like that you can download it to an MP3 player and listen to it as many
times as you want, wherever you want ... but I haven't done that yet ...
Dr.
Liz -
Marge, how are you?
Dr.
Liz -
Dot, you are most welcome. :)
Marge
- I'm well thanks, Liz, and how are you?
RosieTara
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Marge
- Hi RT! Dr.
Liz -
I started my Fall Tour this past weekend. I'm doing 9 cities in 3 states.
Dr.
Liz -
Hi, RT! Marge
- that's great, Liz!
RosieTara
- Hi everybody ! Sorry Iam late. Had a visiter. She will be back soon...hope I
can spend some time with you
Dr.
Liz -
I enjoy going to the different locations and meeting and helping the different
people and animals.
Dr.
Liz -
RT, I'm glad you could join us.
Dot
- I'm always willing to look at new options so I will certainly give it a try
Dr.
Liz -
On Saturday, the most beautiful session happened. A woman had rescued a dog two
years ago. She observed that the dog never played. She asked me to ask the dog
if it was happy.
RosieTara
- Thanks Liz ! You know Fridays is always busy
Dr.
Liz -
The dog looked sternly at me and said, "I will tell you the truth but you
must promise to keep my person okay." I promised.
Dr.
Liz -
The dog then said to me, "I don't know what it means to be happy."
Dr.
Liz -
I radiated a strong energetic of compassion to the woman, knowing that would keep
her okay as I waited for what the dog was going to say next.
Dr.
Liz -
And the dog said to me, "When I am with my person, my heart relaxes and opens,
and I feel peaceful inside. Is that what it means to be happy? If so, then, Yes,
I am happy."
Dr.
Liz -
I translated what the dog said for the woman ... and we BOTH reached for the Kleenex!!!
Dr.
Liz -
That whole thing took maybe 30 seconds ... in ONE 10-minute session ... it is
amazing how quickly lives can be changed!
RosieTara
- Me , too !!! How beautifully sad !
Marge
- That had me reaching for the kleenex box too!
Marge
- BTW Liz, have I missed the writeup that you were going to do re the rottie dog
that RT brought to your attention?
RosieTara
- I read at the moment the book "Talk to the animals" by Dr Dain Heer
and Gary m. Douglas Very similar stories, Liz !
Dr.
Liz -
Marge, the write-up is almost done ... I plan on sending it to you and to RT so
you can take a look at it since I mention both of you ... I got quite tied up
with more "stuff" going on here ...
RosieTara
- Do pou know it /them?
RosieTara
- Thank you , Liz !
Marge
- I'm looking forward to reading it, Liz
GirlyGirls
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Dr.
Liz -
RT, your mention is the first I've heard of them.
Dr.
Liz -
Hi, GG! GirlyGirls
- Hi Everybody. . .
Dr.
Liz -
Marge, thank you!
RosieTara
- GirlyGirls
- (RT is speechless!)
Marge
- Liz, does this tie in with our chat topic tonight?
Marge
- Hi GG GirlyGirls
- Hey, Marge. Fannie says Hi to all, as well!
Dr.
Liz -
Marge, yes. RosieTara
- Would you like to read it? It reminds me so often of things you taught us...:)
RosieTara
- Hi GG...:))))
Dr.
Liz -
What I had thought to do tonight, in our time available, was share a beautiful
insight I had about Sacred Archetypes ... we spoke a little about this last itme
... Dr.
Liz -
RT, yes! GirlyGirls
- Fergus is here, too!
Marge
- please continue Liz
GirlyGirls
- Waiting for Gray Cat, not sure if he knows about the chat yet.
RosieTara
- I will get a copy for you...he is the Australian horse whisperer
Marge
- (Hi Fergus and Fannie!)
Marge
- RT ... what's his name and the name of the book again?
GirlyGirls
- Gray is here, too! He's got his little boy what's up look on. They are gathered
for Liz's teaching!
Dr.
Liz -
RT, thank you!
Dr.
Liz -
An archetype we spoke specifically about, is the archetype of Rescuer.
Marge
- (Hi Grey Cat!)
RosieTara
- Talk to the Animals ( an extrordinary conversation)
Dr.
Liz -
One of the observations we made, was, that one person can do a behavior, and for
that person, it is not an archetype being played out ... but another person can
be doing the same behavior, and for that person, it IS an archetype being played
out. Dr.
Liz -
Now me, for example, I am definitely working the archetype of Rescuer ...
GirlyGirls
- ??? Dr.
Liz -
Every archetype has both a light side representation, and a dark side represntation
... RosieTara
- by Dr Dain Heer and Gary M. Douglas Just amazing stuff !
Dr.
Liz -
For me, the light side of Rescuer is my work ... my work with animals, my work
as a healer, an intuitive, an energy worker ...
Dr.
Liz -
The dark side for me, evidences mostly in close personal relationships, and it
evidences as codependent behaviors.
Dr.
Liz -
One of the main goals of knowing our archetypes, is so that we can become conscious
of them ... because they rule us, until we are conscious of them.
Marge
- (and the toele of the book please, RT?)
GirlyGirls
- T_I_T_L_E?
Dr.
Liz -
We want to know what our archetypes are, because until we are aware of them, they
run us ... Marge
- yes GirlyGirls
- ruin or run?
RosieTara
- ISBN 978-0-9775146-7-0 Watson Ferguson&Company Salisbury 4105 Queensland
Australia Dr.
Liz -
GG ... LOL ... BOTH ... LOL!
GirlyGirls
- :-) Marge
- Thanks RT Dr.
Liz -
What I discovered since our last Chat'N'Pray, is, if you ASK, you will be shown
the different sides of your archetype ... when you are in an archetype at all
... and what your initial expressions are, of the archetype-run behaviors.
RosieTara
- Pleasure Marge
Dr.
Liz -
I simply said to Guidance, "Show me GENTLY the behaviors ... how I get hooked
into them ... "
Dr.
Liz -
I took as an example, someone I met recently ... and Guidance showed me that the
very first thing I did with that person, was fall into a trap of rescuring him
and helping him because he was playing "helpless man needs woman for decorating
advice" ... it's a clear rescue because I subsequently found out he's very
accomplished in that area ...
GirlyGirls
- Men, Sheesh!
RosieTara
- Oooooooh !
Dr.
Liz -
There's a big energetic difference, I have a brand new distinction, between being
of service, and wanting to know how to HELP someone ... the difference is on the
FOCUS ... when we ask how we can be of serivce, we are asking the UNIVERSE ...
when we ask how can we help a specific person, be careful, because it MAY be a
Rescue ... not necessarily ... but it MAY be ...
Dr.
Liz -
When we ask how we can be of service, our FOCUS is on the UNIVERSE, on SOURCE,
and how IT wants to flow THROUGH us ... so it's impersonal, although of course
other persons may be involved ... For me that was a biggie ...
Dr.
Liz -
Am I making sense?
RosieTara
- Thank you ,Liz ! I needed to learn that !!!
GirlyGirls
- Great RosieTara
- Oh Yes...you do !
Marge
- Yes! Dr.
Liz -
You, my friends here, are the first I'm sharing this new insight with ...
GirlyGirls
- Well, the kitties heard you, too!
Dr.
Liz -
GG ... :) :) :)
RosieTara
- You have been of service again...
Dr.
Liz -
RT ... :) RosieTara
- Does that sound right grammar wise ?
GirlyGirls
- So, do you suggest that before we engage to step back, take a moment, and ask
the universe, or ask the person/animal/tree, etc. . . how we can be of service.
I get the concept, not the proper application
Dr.
Liz -
I had to have great pain, especially from the codependent behaviors I've engaged
in for most of my adult life, in order to get to this point ... I've seen all
this now, clearly, just in the past few weeks ...
Dr.
Liz -
RT, yes ... LOL
GirlyGirls
- (daughter?)
Dr.
Liz -
GG, yes. RosieTara
- I go through the same thing , Liz. Very painful !
GirlyGirls
- That's been a great spiritual journey for you, Liz. . like one of God's riddles.
. . Dr.
Liz -
GG, for me what works is, if I feel PULLED to help, it's probably the archetype.
If I am FLOWING and FEELING to help, from the inside, it's probably SOURCE.
GirlyGirls
- Liz, can you define archetype in this for me please.. .never thought of it as
a "negative" before. I;m a little slow tonight, tired.
Marge
- further to what GG just asked ... what if the person is asking for help in a
round about way or even directly, ... and one doesn't know HOW to help them?
GirlyGirls
- (Gray really missed me, I think. He's sitting on my foot to drink his water)
Dr.
Liz -
So pause, yes ... and see where is the energy coming from ... is it pulling out
of your body from your middle or from a chakra area below the belt ... or is it
flowing down from above, or up from the earth, in-filling you completely, and
expressing through you ...
GirlyGirls
- Okay, got that.
Dr.
Liz -
Archetypes aren't necessarily negative ... they are part of our Spiritual Contracts
... we WILL work them ... and they have "dark" sides and "light"
sides ... Take for example, addictions ... you can have a "dark" side
of addictions through drugs or alcohol ... or a "light" side of addiction,
which we may call discipline, for exercise or sacred ritual ...
GirlyGirls
- okay, this is interesting. .
Dr.
Liz -
Marge, I run into that situation with a good friend who is very round about ...
GirlyGirls
- Why does my music creative energy have a history of being derailed when I have
a love interest/lover? Is that an archetype at work?
RosieTara
- What if we get trapped by expactations and emotions ?
Dr.
Liz -
GG, an archetype is a pattern of behaviors that lies in human consciousness, the
consciousness that transcends a particular human and is part of all humanity.
Dr.
Liz -
There is a pattern, for example, called MOTHER ... yet MOTHER has variations ...
such as the archetype, WITCH MOTHER, or NURTURING MOTHER, etc.
GirlyGirls
- Got my heart broken, intensely, and feeling more loved and loving myself more
in my relationship with my music. Same thing I did as a kid, round my love in
music when paternal relationship was a raw deal. Hmmm.
Dr.
Liz -
GG, very likely, yes.
RosieTara
- So right , Liz
GirlyGirls
- Found not round my love in music
GirlyGirls
- How do I break it?
GirlyGirls
- How do I figure out how to name my archetypes? Where does that insight come
from. Naming is helpful, sometimes
Dr.
Liz -
Marge, what I do with the person who is round about, is I ask before I go to bed
at night, what is the correct action, if any, regarding this person. I usually
have a thought near waking, that offers an answer.
GirlyGirls
- I have a cousin who is hot and cold, affirming then negative, lots of mixed
messages. I recently just stopped communicating with her because I can't take
it anymore. Marge
- Thanks Liz ... I do it this way quite often for a variety of answers
GirlyGirls
- I'll ask and see what comes up from guidance to handle this.
Dot
- ok, now I definatley understand WITCH MOTHER who is always demanding to be rescued!!!
What you are saying makes alot of sense
Marge
- ... about a variety of things
Dr.
Liz -
GG, the catalyst for all this for me, was my brother mentioning that he and his
wife are together reading and studying Carolyn Myss' book, Sacred Contracts. There
are other views on it, hers is now a popular one.
GirlyGirls
- I'll put the book on my reading list. Like her.
RosieTara
- Dr. Rudolf Steiner even recommends THREE night sleeps
GirlyGirls
- She has an interesting lens.
Dr.
Liz -
GG, that feels from here, to be a statement of self-respect.
GirlyGirls
- To pull back, you mean, Liz?
Dr.
Liz -
GG, yes. Marge
- Prayer time?
GirlyGirls
- I am growing much lately in the area of validation and self-respect. Standing
differently in my world/life.
RosieTara
- ...before an answer and decision
Dr.
Liz -
RT ... .72 hours is a very powerful time spiritually ... I can understand why
Steiner says 3 days ...
Dr.
Liz -
Marge, yes, thank you!
Dr.
Liz -
All ... it's prayer time.
Dr.
Liz -
Please choose a Name that works for you, and key it into the Chatroom now!
Dr.
Liz -
Sacred Universe! Holy Spirit!
RosieTara
- It works for me, Liz
GirlyGirls
- Getting comfortable with the gifts God has given me and who god made me to be;
not settling for what others try to impose on me. When folks, and recently I was
betrayed by a bunch of people, collectively, whose energy has gotten very distorted.
. .anyway, my respoinse was "I must be one incredibly beautiful, powerful,
strong and balanced woman to make so many people so nervous!'
GirlyGirls
- Jesus! RosieTara
- Dear Father in Heaven
Marge
- Lord, Sacred Universe
Dr.
Liz -
And now, say/feel your name deeply, while you breathe in and out, three times.
GirlyGirls
- (Liz, I didn't see your "!" and put one in too!!
Dr.
Liz -
Holy Spirit, Sacred Universe, Jesus, Dear Father in Heaven, Lord, we know that
you are in us, and we are in you, and that we combine together.
Dot
- Jehovah Dr.
Liz -
In-fill us now, with your Power and Grace.
Dr.
Liz -
You make it so, that we are filled with You, so that we may come from You, to
serve those who have asked for prayer help at this time.
Dr.
Liz -
And as we connect with you, Your beautiful energy wells up inside us. as we smile,
and radiate your healing love, to those in the Basket of Blessings before me.
Dr.
Liz -
May each unto each, be served, in its proper time and way, each animal, each person,
each situation.
Dr.
Liz -
And it is so.
GirlyGirls
- Amen! RosieTara
- Amen Dr.
Liz -
It is time now, to enter the names of any other people, animals, or situations,
for whom healing prayer energy is desired.
Marge
- and it is so, amen
Dot
- Marie, Henry , Princess
GirlyGirls
- For me, that I whatever is causing my sleep disturbance be resolved so I can
get a full night's sleep. Amen and Thank you!
Marge
- Healing and vibrant health for my kitty cat, Pretty Girl
RosieTara
- Fee GirlyGirls
- For Marie, Henry and Princess. . and the intenions for them on Dot's heart.
. .Amen! GirlyGirls
- FEE!! And all goodness, light, healing and protection for Fee! Amen
GirlyGirls
- Pretty Girl dancing, strong and happy!
GirlyGirls
- Amen! :-) RosieTara
- Thank you, GG she needs it !
Marge
- for all of our animal friends, both here and those who have crossed over
Marge
- (thank you GG)
Dot
- healing & protection for all Amen
GirlyGirls
- For Fannie, that the root cause of her chronic cough be clarified and healing
light and effort permanently heal her!
RosieTara
- r the starving dingos on Fraser Island
GirlyGirls
- Amen to all. Protection, strength and health for Fannie and the Freeloaders
(fergus and GrayCat)
RosieTara
- for me...may rejection change to love and understanding
Marge
- for you, RT
Dr.
Liz -
For all of us here, that we may bring into our lives, or keep in our lives, those
who are of light and affirm us and empower us; and let go of those that don't
or aren't. GirlyGirls
- Dear AWPT -- that next week will bring confirmation of a full roster of private
students, filling the open spaces in my days, and for confirmation of my being
hired to lead the Senior Chorus. . .and at a fair wage!
RosieTara
- Thanks Marge....allthe good things for your kitty
Marge
- amen to that Liz, and thank you
Marge
- (thanks RT)
GirlyGirls
- AMEN TO THAT LIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the Message came through for me very clearly
recently, that I must learn to give my love, light and energy to those who can
receive it. I had to practice it . ..even if the only ones who could were my kitties!
Dr.
Liz -
For Nature, that she and those fighting the wildfires in Los Angeles, find a resolution
that saves the forrests.
RosieTara
- THANKS, liz
GirlyGirls
- I have given much to many who could not receive or reciprocate. . .
Marge
- amen to that Liz
GirlyGirls
- And you all know how that ends up!
RosieTara
- GOOD point, GG :)
Dr.
Liz -
My friends, you are most welcome.
GirlyGirls
- Amen Liz. Dr.
Liz -
For me, that I find a way of clarifing what is important, and recognize and let
go of that which is not, especially in my work.
Dr.
Liz -
And for everyone here, for whom that may be an issue ... LOL!
GirlyGirls
- "Dear Ones" , I am bleary eyed-drove a lot today (about 5 hours) and
must sign off.
GirlyGirls
- Liz, you are on a roll. Hallelujah Amen! :-)(
Dr.
Liz -
GG, welcome home from your vacation!
RosieTara
- Thank you for the energy in this chat. It is like soul food for me....have to
go ....love you all
Marge
- for Liz ... and amen to that
Marge
- night RT ... night all and God Bless us all
Dr.
Liz -
All ...my riends ... thank you for joining in this time ... see you next time!
Much love, Me
Dr.
Liz -
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- good night and blessings to all
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