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December 28, 2009

"Dr. Liz on Chief Seattle and the Lord's Prayer"

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Dr. Liz - Hi, RT!
Rosie Tara - How are you ?
Dr. Liz - Good! How are you?
Dr. Liz - I'm "maroon" tonight.
Rosie Tara - Did your Christmas present arrive?
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Rosie Tara - The "posties" here in Aussieland are on strike....very naughty !
Dr. Liz - Not yet.
Dr. Liz - Hi, Jane!
Rosie Tara - Oh NO !!!
Dr. Liz - LOL Down under, they're called "posties"?
Rosie Tara - Hi Jane !
Dr. Liz - It'll come, I'm sure.
jane - Hello from Louisiana - cold Louisiana!
Rosie Tara - I wrote you an email about it...did you get that?
Dr. Liz - An email about the posties strike? No, I didn't receive it.
Rosie Tara - Here we are AGAIN....
Dr. Liz - Jane, it's cold here, and about to get even colder. I read the Farmers Almanac forecasts just an hour ago, for your area ... unseasonably cold winter, it said.
Dr. Liz - Jane, I mean, for your area.
Rosie Tara - All over Europe are heavy snowfalls...and here in Australia are floods and heat
jane - It will get down to around 28 or 29 F tonight - it is a very cold kind of cold - biting...We need to pray for all of the animals who are left out in the extreme weather conditions all over.
Rosie Tara - Oh, yes, Jane ...where you are they are freezing to death , here they are drowning....so sad !
jane - RT - you must be having a lot of flooding?
Dr. Liz - RT, weren't you recently in a drought?
Rosie Tara - Yes, Jane, in NSW it is still raining and people can't get in or out of their properties
Dr. Liz - Wow.
Rosie Tara - Yes Liz, that makes it so hard now with the rain in certain areas...the soil cannot take it in anymore
Dr. Liz - That's a lot of rain.
Dr. Liz - I remember not too long ago, praying for rain for drought-stricken areas of Australia.
Rosie Tara - Flood....
Rosie Tara - Thousands of cattle, horses and/or native animals died....very sad !
Dr. Liz - We've had a lot of snow here ... followed by rain ... 22 inches of snow ... and recently about 2 inches of rain ... the ground is soaked ...
Dr. Liz - RT, this is the first I'm learning of this. No one has put that into the Prayer Basket.
Rosie Tara - That will be next, I guess...then the whole circle starts again...
Dr. Liz - Well, we need balance now in NSW. Water conditions and dryness conditions be in balance NOW.
Rosie Tara - It happened the last 3 days... Liz
Dr. Liz - Hi, Marge! Got your email. Happy to see you!
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Dr. Liz - RT, oh, that explains it. Thanks.
Rosie Tara - Hi Marge....
Dr. Liz - Marge is changing her color.
jane - Dr. Liz - I am thrown off with you not being the blue color!
Marge - Hi all! Yes Liz ... having too much chocolate, so logged in as chocolate , lol,
Rosie Tara - Liz , guess what?
Dr. Liz - We have a prayer request tonight for a large number, 2500 Mustangs in Nevada that the Bureau of Land Management is planning to round up by helicopter and then move to pens.
Marge - i.e. I was having too much chocolate over the holidays,
Dr. Liz - Marge, well, chocolate may be necessary for survival. LOL.
Rosie Tara - It is already the 29th here in Down Under....:) So.I can wish you .....HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!
Dr. Liz - RT, guess ... okay, I guess .... what???
jane - Hi Marge - I have been in sugar poisoning or something - I never eat as bad as I have been the last few weeks.
Dr. Liz - RT ... THANK YOU!!! So my Birthday has officially STARTED!!! HOORAY!!!!
Rosie Tara - May the next year the best year ever for you !!!:))
Rosie Tara - LOL LOL
Marge - well, a little (or a lot) of chocolate once a year really can't be too bad, eh?
Dr. Liz - Jane, nux vomica is good and so is vitamin C, and even Acai berry juice, for helping to release sugar poisoning ... along with, of course, drinking 6 -8 glasses of good quality water daily.
jane - I have read about the mustangs from various animal groups that I recevie email from - I hope that signing all of those petitions does some good - I hope it helps.
Marge - oh my heavens ... what are they doing rounding up the mustangs???!!!
Dr. Liz - Marge, there is a raw food guru, David Wolfe, who has made his career on his belief that cocoa is one of the superfoods of our planet.
jane - Dr. Liz - nux vomica is something that I feel like doing right now!!!
Dr. Liz - Marge, all I know is that they're going to be putting the wild mustangs into pens. I don't know any more, there wasn't any more in the prayer request. But at first blush, that doesn't sound good at all.
jane - David Wolfe has been a guest several times on Coast to Coast radio show - I bought some things from the health food place that he recommended on-line, but it was very pricy.
Marge - No, it sure doesn't!
Rosie Tara - It sounds shocking !
Dr. Liz - Jane, I feel his stuff is very pricey, too. A lot of what works for him, doesn't work for me at all. But if one wants to eat chocolate without guilt, he is definitely the food guru to listen to! LOL
Dr. Liz - I received the prayer request regarding the mustangs from multiple sources, but none say any more, than that the horses are being rounded up with the intent to put them in pens.
jane - I don’t know if this link will work - it is about the horses. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-wild-horses-obama,0,5429559.story
Rosie Tara - I love DARK chocolate with almonds....hmmmmm
Dr. Liz - Even so for wild mustangs that's got to be terrifying.
jane - This is from IN DEFENSE OF ANIMALS group - http://www.idanews.org/ida-breaking-news/lawsuit-to-protect-wild-horses-continues-despite-denial-of-injunction-against-massive-roundup/
Marge - That just doesn't sound right! ... yes, they would be absolutely terrified and more
Dr. Liz – They’re planning on stock piling them in long-term holding facilities.
Rosie Tara - Oh NO !
Marge - thank you Jane, for the web links.
Dr. Liz - Some people are asking Obama to intervene. Let's pray he does.
Rosie Tara - This poor man has to help EVERYWHERE!
Dr. Liz - RT, if anyone can do it, he can.
jane - IDA is working to stop this roundup. You can check out their web page for more info - they list things you can do to help stop this - including sending an email to President O'Bama. This is from their newsletter - sorry if I am posting too much stuff. Only a huge public outcry will save these horses from the trauma of being stampeded with helicopters over treacherous winter terrain into capture pens, where they will be torn from their family members before being loaded onto trucks destined for possibly illegal BLM wild horse warehouses in the Midwest.
Rosie Tara - YES....HE CAN !!!
Dr. Liz - So, we pray now, that the plight of these innocent mustangs, be brought to the attention of whoever has the power and the authority to see to it that they are treated humanely and well.
Marge - RT ... rightly so, Obama should step up!
Dr. Liz - And it is done.
Rosie Tara - Amen
jane - Amen from me too
Marge - And it is so. Thank you Liz for leading us in this prayer
Rosie Tara - I might have missed it...is this already going on with the horses?
Dr. Liz - Can you imagine how it would feel to be herded by a helicopter over cold winter terrain?
Rosie Tara - I mean is it planned to do or is it already happening ?
Marge - that in itself is inhumane!
Dr. Liz - RT, all I know is that I've received several prayer requests in the Basket this time, about that situation.
Dr. Liz - And what we've shared tonight.
jane - The newsletter says it was supposed to start today.
Dr. Liz - Did it?
Rosie Tara - Cruel..cruel ...cruel..
Marge - totally inhumane!
Rosie Tara - Authorities do something similar here with the camels
Rosie Tara - and kangaroos
jane - The newsletter came out before noon today - it said: IDA continues to work diligently to stop the pending Bureau of Land Management (BLM) roundup of 2,700 horses in the Calico Mountain Complex in northwestern Nevada. Despite our efforts, the roundup is set to start today, but there is still time to save most of the horses! We won’t stop fighting – but we need your help to stop this massive assault on America’s wild horses.
Marge - We must continue prayers to help these horses ... I pray for Divine Intervention for these horses
Dr. Liz - I find myself remembering the words of Chief Seattle, in 1861 ... that the white man will die of great loneliness of the spirit if he despises nature.
Dr. Liz - Divine Intervention NOW for the horses!
Rosie Tara - Very deep ...and true, Liz
Dr. Liz - Make it so, that the helicoper pilots cannot fly.
Dr. Liz - Or that the pens are not made ready.
jane - If everyone could go to their website http://www.idausa.org/ and follow their instructions for contacting and writing letters and calling - do this tomorrow - the horses need all the help they can get.
Rosie Tara - Yes....let it snow so heavy that no helicopters can fly!!
Dr. Liz - Make it so, that whatever delays need to happen, happen, until the proper authority can decry and stop this intended inhumane treatment of mustangs.
Marge - or that it just will never happen!
Rosie Tara - Who had the idea to do it in the first place?
jane - That is a great quote, Dr. Liz, from Chief Seattle. It reminds me of another Chief (cannot remember) who said that when all of the trees are gone and all of the water is polluted and there is concrete everywhere - YOU CANNOT EAT MONEY!
Rosie Tara - Very true..Jane
Marge - Liz and Jane ... both are great sayings. I suspect man will die of more than loneliness of the heart for all of his destruction in this world!
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jane - RT - this page gives you the history of this situation http://www.idausa.org/campaigns/horses/index.html
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Marge - RT ... what a beautiful color!
Rosie Tara - Sorry press wrong button...now in pink :)
Dr. Liz - Marge, Chief Seattle saw the "writing on the wall" in 1854 ... he saw THEN, what the white man was doing to the earth ... he spoke against it ... even then. Everything he foresaw then, has come true.
Dr. Liz - Hi, Pink RT!
Rosie Tara - Thanks Jane
jane - It is not just the wild horses that are in trouble - IDa has so many causes going, it makes my head spin - I think they do great work. There is so much cruelty out there - why is man so mean and violent and hateful?? Not only to animals but to each other? It hurts my heart!
Dr. Liz - Among other things, he said, "man did not create the web of life, he is but one part of it."
Rosie Tara - The colour hurts my eyes :)
Marge - Yes, Chief Seattle was a 'wise' man!
jane - Amazing -of course the Indians have been mowed over just like the animals - their land stolen from them.
Rosie Tara - Jane, I watched a movie the other day..."the invention of Lying"...that could give you some answers...very powerful and BRILLIANT
jane - RT - it sounds interesting - I will look for it.
Dr. Liz – “A few more moons, a few more winters, and not one of the descendants of the mighty hosts that once moved over this broad land or lived in happy homes, protected by the Great Spirit, will remain to mourn over the graves of a people once more powerful and hopeful than yours. But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea. It is the order of nature, and regret is useless. Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend to friend, cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We will see. “
Dr. Liz - I just copied this portion from Chief Seattle's speech. The man was so Guided, so Spirit-Connected.
Dr. Liz - It's in a letter from Chief Seattle to the then President of the U.S.
Rosie Tara - WOW !
Marge - Wow! Wow!!!
Dr. Liz - I've always focused on other parts of his speech ... rereading it now, I am TOTALLY struck by the "your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose god walked and talked with him as friend to friend, cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We will see."
jane - I am getting chill bumps!
Rosie Tara - Me, too, Jane
Marge - How true that feels!
Dr. Liz - Marge, what's breathtaking is that it was written in 1854.
Marge - Liz ... are you reading from a link or a book?
jane - That was right before the Civil War.
Dr. Liz - http://www.halcyon.com/arborhts/chiefsea.html
Rosie Tara - Nothing has really changed with what is important in life....
Marge - Perhaps by 2054 "we will be brothers after all"???
Marge - it hasn't has it, RT
Marge - thanks Liz
Rosie Tara - 2054 ? Why, Marge?
Dr. Liz - RT, what's also "hitting" me now, is that, the same concept ... "tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation" ... this same thought, is EXACTLY the thought in the final line of the Lords' Prayer, first taught almost 2000 years ago.
Dr. Liz - Marge, maybe even before then.
Dr. Liz - The last line of the Lord's Prayer is usually translated, "forever and ever, amen."
Dr. Liz - That isn't what it really says, however.
Rosie Tara - Amazing...Liz
Dr. Liz - What it really means, in the original Aramaic, is, "from the rise, fall, and death of one civilisation, to the rise, fall, and death, of another civilisation, one after the other, so be it."
Rosie Tara - Atlantis...for example
Dr. Liz - RT, exactly. They've found the remains of Atlantis, so people know that one was real, not just myth, now.
Marge - wow, and isn't this what history shows
Dr. Liz - They've also found remains from Cleopatra's city, also underwater now.
Dr. Liz - Marge, it surely does.
Dr. Liz - Alexandria.
Rosie Tara - Are we with our values and society close to "Atlantis" circumstances
Dr. Liz - The spiritual understanding of "Atlantis" circumstances is that man was given great understandings, and abused those understandings; so the civilisation was destroyed.
Rosie Tara - ????
Rosie Tara - Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Dr. Liz - RT, yes.
jane - I live in Alexandria, Louisiana!
Dr. Liz - Jane, yes, I know!
Marge - so, is there any 'wisdom' in man
Rosie Tara - WOW...Jane...now we are really drifting towards awareness !
Dr. Liz - I was a Classics Major in College. The rise and fall of both the Greek States and the Roman Empire, was a great part of my life's work for over 9 years.
Dr. Liz - Marge, the overall concensus is that man simply doesn't learn from his/her mistakes.
jane - Dr. Liz - I could not AGREE more - man does not learn from the past.
Marge - seems like the ego and greed prevail
Dr. Liz - Except we have that choice again, now. This time it is a planetary choice. We can either take the path of compassion, forgiveness, service, and kindness ... or not.
Marge - yet, it is not too late ...
Rosie Tara - I studied Atlantis with our study group at the Steiner School
Dr. Liz - There are many who believe that man's fate is to be doomed to repeat his mistakes throughout all time.
jane - Why would that be man's fate? Where did it come from?
Dr. Liz - RT, please share!
Rosie Tara - And WHY? because we learned to lie , to manipulate, to be greedy...etc etc
Dr. Liz - The way I see it, we were able to conceive of the (false) thought that we are separate from God.
Marge - perhaps we can pray (time now) for all of mankind to take the path of compassion, forgiveness, service and kindness and 'oneness'
Dr. Liz - And having conceived of that thought, while still also knowing that deep down we are God, we created confusion, the ability to miss the mark of keeping our minds, our consciousness, our awareness, focused on God.
Rosie Tara - Liz...too much to share...what you said is right...we had our chance once in Atlantis and simply SPOILED it....we have our chance NOW as well...
Dr. Liz - And we lost the commitment to either worship or serve, the only two true ultimate paths.
jane - Oh my gosh, yes. People are taught to be separate in every way - egos everywhere - etc.
Rosie Tara - sick egos...
Marge - time to pray now?
Dr. Liz - Marge, yes. Let us all altogether now pray for all humanity to take the path of compassion, forgiveness, service, and kindness ... to honor the oneness ... to behave in a true way, that all life matters, that all life is God ...
Rosie Tara - Yes, what a great day to do this....end of year and Liz's birthday !!!
Dr. Liz - Make it so, that it start with each one of us here ... that we each be given the vision, the strength, and the support, to take a conscious path of compassion, forgiveness, service, and kindness ... to honor the oneness ... to honor behaving and knowing that the God in all life matters ...
Marge - this I pray for all of mankind. and it is so, amen
Dr. Liz - RT, .... yes ... it IS very significant, that we do this now, isn't it? I didn't see that until you brought it up ...
Marge - (thanks, RT)
Dr. Liz - The end of this year, the end of a period of "sevens" in my chronological life ... all very significant ...
Dr. Liz - Very powerful time ...
Rosie Tara - Oh..yes !!
Dr. Liz - We're already in prayer mode, but to take it up a notch, enter the Names of your Chosen Holy Ones, into the Chat room now ...
jane - Universe
Dr. Liz - Holy Spirit, Divine Universe, Boundless Energy of a Loving God ...
Rosie Tara - Father in Heaven
Dr. Liz - Breathe deeply as you enter your Name, and as you see each of the other Names keyed in ...
Marge - Lord, Holy Spirit
Dr. Liz - Universe, Father in Heaven, Holy Spirit, Divine Universe, Boundless Energy of a Loving God ... we call on you now ...
Dr. Liz - Lord, Holy Spirit, we call on you now.
Dr. Liz - YOU ARE in us, WE ARE in YOU, WE COMBINE TOGETHER@
Dr. Liz - We are One with You, as You are One with Us, in Us, Around Us ... In you we breathe and have our being ...
Dr. Liz - WE glorify you by our awareness and worship of you and that of you that is in us ...
Dr. Liz - We honor you by being of service in whatever ways we can ...
Dr. Liz - We turn our attention now, to the Basket of Blessings, before me now ...
Dr. Liz - We direct the energy of our combined consciousnesses, to those in the basket now ...
Dr. Liz - We offer them prayer healing, in grace and perfect ways, now.
Dr. Liz - And it is so.
Dr. Liz - It is time now, to enter the requests for any other people, animals, or situations.
Marge - and it is so, amen
jane - Amen
Dr. Liz - Again, for the safety of the 2500 mustangs, that they be humanely treated and given to living out life fully in freedom and health.
Dr. Liz - For the waters in NSW, that they subside, and that balance returns.
Rosie Tara - Amen
jane - Healing for my friend Linda and her two dogs - Maddie and Jake - who were poisoned last year and still recovering.
jane - Healing for me - to get back on track with a healthy diet and exercise.
Dr. Liz - For those of us here, that we may be in happy, gentle awareness, and living conscious lives of service, contribution, and fulfillment.
Marge - amen to these prayers, ... (thank you Liz)
Rosie Tara - May all animals who suffer under the extreme weather like cold, floods, heat find a way to survive ...
Dr. Liz - For my two grandsons, that they may recover from the emotional scarring of their young lives, and live to be fully engaged, happy, healthy adults.
jane - Healing for my cat Miss Scarlett and little Diamond, who was almost killed by my dogs in my backyard.
Rosie Tara - For Liz's grandsons peace and happiness
Dr. Liz - For Joyce's Little Buddha, that she return to vibrant health immediately.
Dr. Liz - Thank you, RT.
jane - Healing to all beings on the planet - for kindness and love to prevail and suffering to cease.
Marge - prayer energy for all requests here
Rosie Tara - May my family be on a successful healing journey
jane - For everyone who is a part of this chat room - to keep coming back and for Dr. Liz to keep having these great sessions.
Dr. Liz - For me, and for any others in codependent or difficult relationships with family members, that I may learn to relate to my daughter, or in others' case, to whoever it may be for them, freshly in each moment, free of any unhealthy patterns of control or manipulation or defensiveness or trying to please or fix ...
Dr. Liz - May we all learn the distinction of what healthy boundaries are ...
jane - For my sister Gayle - healing to her physical body.
Dr. Liz - Jane, thank you...
Rosie Tara - Thank you, Liz...I know what you mean...
Marge - I must say night all .... and HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, DR. LIZ! ... Thank you . May the new year bring PEACE to this world. HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone! LOVE AND BLESSINGS.
jane - For me again to grow spiritually and conquer some of the things that I am battling with.
Dr. Liz - For each of us here, that what truly brings us happiness and joy, be brought forth now, in grace and perfect ways, now and in this next year, 2010.
Dr. Liz - May all the intentions written deeply within our hearts, conscious or unconscious, be made manifest now in their beauty, that each here may sing her song in joy and confidence.
Rosie Tara - May this Christmas tauhgt us what is important in life and make our next Christmas bright and jolly !
Dr. Liz - Thank you, Marge!
jane - Thank ya'll so much - Marge, Dr. Liz, and RT.
Dr. Liz - Happy New Year, Marge!
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Rosie Tara - Thank you Marge...:))
Dr. Liz - Happy New Year, Jane! Happy new Year, RT! You'll get the New Year FIRST among us!!!
jane - Good night and bless everyone! I hope we all have a wonderful New Year! HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Dr. Liz!!
Dr. Liz - I love you all ... thank you so much for being a loyal part of these Chat'N'Prays ...
Rosie Tara - Thank you for this GREAT chat HAPPY NEW YEAR for all of you !!!
Dr. Liz - Good night and God Bless!
Dr. Liz - Thank you, Jane!
jane - Good evening.
Rosie Tara - Yes I do
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Dr. Liz - Thank you, RT
Dr. Liz - Bye now!
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Rosie Tara - Good night to You ...have a great BIRTHDAY !
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